Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[scarletmike]

Its fun to see the Big-XII-II-I implode in slow motion. Although its just speculation, its great hearing that Texas may move. By the time this is over, Dan Beebe is going to have a spot at a psychiatric ward in Austin.

Reporter: Dan, you just told us 10 minutes ago that the conference is staying strong at 9 teams, but we were just told that OU is going to the PAC?
Dan: .......

 

[buckeyescott11]

BBaptistHoops Bob Baptist



RT @FootballBYU: BYU will accept Big 12 offer pending OU signs intent to stay contract... Could be announced as early as Saturday

 

[LordJeffBuck]

Going to 18 would complicate the supposed request of Texas and ND to have 4 non-conference games. Two 9-team divisions means 8 divisional games, and then there are either no cross-division games, or if 1 is played then half the league has 5 home conference games and the other half plays 4.

Cross division teams would almost never play each other. With 18 teams, and 1 fixed and 1 rotating cross-divisional game, that would mean a trip to the cross division team's stadium once every 14 years. With only a rotating game as the 9th conference game, it means a visit once every 18 years (playing twice in 18 years, one at home and one away).

It would barely seem like many teams on the other side were in the same conference in football - it would be fine for basketball.

True, but two eight team divisions means only one cross-divisional game a year, which isn't a whole lot better. If cross-divisional games is an issue (and it probably should be), then the result would best be achieved by two eight-team divisions, each with two four-team subdivisions: (1) three games each year versus sub-divisional teams; (2) one game each year against a cross-sub-divisional rival (Ohio State versus Michigan, for example); and (3) four other conference games; and (4) four non-conference games.

The main problem with four sub-divisions is how to choose two teams for a conference championship. Ideally, you'd have each sub-divisional winner play in round one, and then the winners of those two games play in the conference championship game. However, I don't believe that such an arrangement is currently approved by the NCAA.

 

[Diego-Bucks]

BBaptistHoops Bob Baptist



RT @FootballBYU: BYU will accept Big 12 offer pending OU signs intent to stay contract... Could be announced as early as Saturday

Its not a bad option. But honestly, the Big 12 is not long for this world.

 

[sepia5]

Besides Nebraska?

Good point. Although, at the time, Nebraska was also an AAU member and it brought a medium but growing Omaha market. You can argue adding Kentucky would bring in the Louisville and Lexington markets, but I'm not sure the B1G isn't already into those markets (?). And another big thing was that Nebraska became the 12th member and enabled a conference championship. Adding another one-sport powerhouse that doesn't bring much else wouldn't even help add cash from a conference championship game now.

At any rate, at the time, I saw snatching up Nebraska primarily as a move to shake things up in the Big 12 so that Texas became available. If the plan really was to catalyze the fall of the Big 12 such that either Texas had to go looking for a new conference affiliation or Notre Dame had to finally seek affiliation, then grabbing Nebraska brought more than a good football program; it brought a change in the college football landscape that pushed the two biggest fish towards realignment. It's still too early to tell, but that may be exactly what is happening.

 

[Steve19]

 

[MaliBuckeye]

Hee hee hee... Nebraska's an A cup...

 

[bucknut502]

Hee hee hee... Nebraska's an A cup...

Missouri, by far, has the nicest rack!

 

[MaliBuckeye]

Missouri, by far, has the nicest rack!

North Carolina ain't too shabby.

I'd also say "Florida", but it seems to have an extra bit of plumbing that explains quite a bit, actually...

 

[Dryden]

I'd also say "Florida", but it seems to have an extra bit of plumbing that explains quite a bit, actually...

I think Thujone accurately described Florida already,

 

[Saw31]

If we can't get Texas, I at least want to make an offer to Thujone. I will burn a couch as sacrifice to make this happen...

 

[Gatorubet]

I only note that the deformed penis on the decapitated fish called America is labeled - "Miami".

 

[Steve19]

I only note that the deformed penis on the decapitated fish called America is labeled - "Miami".

Funny, I was thinking that you were going to point out that Florida justifiably could claim to be "The Crying Game state."

 

[cincibuck]

I hope it stops at Texas and Notre Dame.

Some of this thread reads this:[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzhTHLiZyGk"]Blazing Saddles - Prairie Shit - YouTube[/ame]

I'm trying to imagine a Texas schedule with Oklahoma in early October and Texas A&M on Turkey day and the Big 10 in between. I'm sure part of the price to get out of Dodge --otherwise known as the-conference-previously-known-as-the-Big-XII-- is to guarantee T-Tech and Baylor ooc games on a home and home basis. If they stick that as a condition onto TAM's shot at the SEC it should calm those voices down.

As for the long view I would guess that we will see far fewer Big 10 Champs banners flying from the towers at the shoe and the same will be true for Michigan.

Imagine what this does to the coaching/fan situation at Iowa, Michigan State, Minnie and Penn State. Maybe the money is great, but who likes running behind the lead dogs all the time?

 

[Gatorubet]

Funny, I was thinking that you were going to point out that Florida
justifiably could claim to be "The Crying Game state".......'cause they cry a
lot down there....Tebow a lot, really........and Crying Game had this like
tranni guy that looked like Kelvin Benjamin.......who cried....like a girl...
........................so a penguin, a nun and this Chinese guy go into a bar
- ya heard this one?

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