Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[MaxBuck]

I'm going to have to call bull[censored] on this one unless you can show me any evidence that Ohio State or Michigan are anything less than constructive partners in the Big Ten and fully committed to its basic tenets of equal revenue sharing.

What incidents can you mention that would lead one to lump them alongside Texas in how they treat their conference partners?

My comment relates to the fan base rather than the university administrations. I agree - both OSU and UM have been very supportive of all their brother institutions in the Big Ten and the CIC. That support from the leading football schools (and therefore "flagship" schools) in the conference is perhaps the largest reason that the Big Ten is the most stable conference in college football.

With that said, as fanbases, Buckeye and Wolverine fans are as arrogant or demanding of special considerations as any in the land. With justification, of course. :tongue2:

 

[Buckeyefrankmp]

That is correct, two years after the Big 12 voted them down, the NCAA no longer allowed partial qualifiers.

When did OSU stop taking Prop 48/partial qualifiers? Was it before the NCAA ruling?

 

[BB73]

Pac 10 commish Scott talks about the near raid of the Big XII South.

CBS

Pac-10's Scott blames Texas for his plan's demise

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Landing the biggest deal failed, though. Scott said he got an education about Texas politics in trying to get Texas, the main target in the expansion plan. To do it, Scott knew he had to take some expansion chattel. The commissioner intimated that the Texas' legislature's debate over which schools came to the Pac-10 together affected the expansion process.

When it was mentioned that Colorado was included in the Pac-10 expansion, Baylor officials attempted to work state house politicos in Austin for inclusion. Similar political dealings got Baylor into the Big 12 14 years ago along with Texas, Texas Tech and Texas A&M.

"Texas and Texas A&M separating with Baylor created a tsunami effect," he said, "It got way too hot for the politicians."

The deal unraveled sometimes as he was in the air making campus visits to Big 12 schools in order to issue invitations. Scrutiny was so intense that there was a website tracking the progress of Scott's plane as it landed in various Big 12 cities.

In a whirlwind two-week period that started June 1 with Big 12 spring meetings in Kansas City, news broke of Scott's raid on the Big 12, Texas demanded an oath of loyalty from Missouri and Nebraska, Colorado left for the Pac-10, Nebraska left for the Big Ten and the Big 12 came perilously close to folding.

The website Orangebloods.com was breaking most of the news during that time largely through unnamed sources. It went from being the first to report that the six schools were strongly considering the Pac-10 to detailing the hectic hours as the Big 12 saved itself with the promise of a windfall increase in future television revenue. Scott, though, seemed to suggest that the reporting was driven by a Texas source or sources with an agenda.

"We weren't trying to publicize what we were doing," Scott said. "We were going about it for four months quietly behind the scenes. It's really Texas [that] leaked the plan as they were going into those Big 12 meetings in Kansas City, I think, hoping to keep Nebraska, hoping to keep the Big 12 together."

Asked what person or persons may have leaked the information Scott said, "I don't know ... It could only be a small [amount of people] who knew what was going on."

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[BuckeyeNation27]

"We weren't trying to publicize what we were doing," Scott said. "We were going about it for four months quietly behind the scenes. It's really Texas [that] leaked the plan as they were going into those Big 12 meetings in Kansas City, I think, hoping to keep Nebraska, hoping to keep the Big 12 together.

i thought it was Chip Brown's outstanding journalism.

 

[NJ-Buckeye]

I hope it includes Rutgers... but Akron is probably the only one going to get an offer (Fear The Roo Baby)

 

[kn1f3party]

Pac 10 commish Scott talks about the near raid of the Big XII South.

CBS

We pretty much knew Texas was behind it all along. Unfortunately, they didn't fall completely on their faces.

 

[Gatorubet]

A&M expects $20 million annually from Big 12 | Texas A&M college | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

COLLEGE STATION - The Big 12 Conference promised Texas A&M $20 million annually and the Aggies intend to collect, A&M president R. Bowen Loftin said Wednesday.
"A key part of Texas A&M's decision to remain in the Big 12 earlier this summer was the commissioner's commitment that Texas A&M would receive a minimum of $20 million annually in future conference distributions," Loftin said in a statement. "We remain committed to the conference and fully anticipate that the Big 12 will honor its commitment to Texas A&M."
And what happens if the Big 12 doesn't honor its $20 million pledge? A high-ranking A&M official said late Wednesday that every legal avenue would be explored first, with the potential of bolting for the Southeastern Conference coming after.

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[ORD_Buckeye]

A&M expects $20 million annually from Big 12 | Texas A&M college | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle




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It's like watching a school bus full of nasty children hurtling towards a cliff and you just happen to be sitting on the side of the road with a lawn chair and a cooler of beer.

 

[MaxBuck]

It's like watching a busload of mentally-challenged Cambodian war criminals hurtling towards a cliff and you just happen to be sitting on the side of the road with a chaise longue, fireworks and a cold keg of Bell's Two-Hearted Ale.

FI

 

[MaxBuck]

A&M expects $20 million annually from Big 12 | Texas A&M college | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

Quote:
COLLEGE STATION - The Big 12 Conference promised Texas A&M $20 million annually and the Aggies intend to collect, A&M president R. Bowen Loftin said Wednesday.
"A key part of Texas A&M's decision to remain in the Big 12 earlier this summer was the commissioner's commitment that Texas A&M would receive a minimum of $20 million annually in future conference distributions," Loftin said in a statement. "We remain committed to the conference and fully anticipate that the Big 12 will honor its commitment to Texas A&M."
And what happens if the Big 12 doesn't honor its $20 million pledge? A high-ranking A&M official said late Wednesday that every legal avenue would be explored first, with the potential of bolting for the Southeastern Conference coming after.

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Aggies are SO gone. The New Big X has a shelf life shorter than mayonnaise in an Alabama summer.

 

[broken24]

The whole Big XII is either smoking crack or Beebe turned in to SpongeBob

This magical TV deal only happens if ESPN is really so scared of BTN that they are willing to pay 3-10 times what Big XII-2 football is worth or the have not give everything to the haves.

 

[VprHis]

It's like watching a school bus full of nasty children hurtling towards a cliff and you just happen to be sitting on the side of the road with a lawn chair and a cooler of beer.

Like so?

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

I'm no lawyer but,

The league?s pledge is oral, and the A&M official said the school?s lawyers are working to get the commitment in writing.

would cause me serious, serious pause if I was. I mean, this whole thing is held together with smiles and handshakes. Even the alleged TV deals are not written down.

Wait a second.... I am a lawyer. What the fuck?

 

[Huskerrat]

We pretty much knew Texas was behind it all along. Unfortunately, they didn't fall completely on their faces.

Well the good news is, this isn't over yet. With A&M making waves, this could get interesting. I think the penalties for Nebraska and Colorado leaving the Big 12 is starting to heat up and now with the argument that they will actually get more money is starting to get used against them in this penalty fight.

 

[DaveyBoy]

Well the good news is, this isn't over yet. With A&M making waves, this could get interesting. I think the penalties for Nebraska and Colorado leaving the Big 12 is starting to heat up and now with the argument that they will actually get more money is starting to get used against them in this penalty fight.

I think this is what Delaney was alluding to when he was announcing Nebraska to the BigTen.....I think he said something like "we will see how this all unfolds, but in the end Nebraska will be made whole".

these are epic times