Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[lvbuckeye]

I've never been moved by conference-name chanting; but if Nebraska wins the Big XII CCG this year and their fans respond by chanting "Big Ten, Big Ten, Big Ten..." as the clock winds down, I just might have to join them.

if i was God i would definitely make this happen.

 

[DallasHusker]

I've never been moved by conference-name chanting; but if Nebraska wins the Big XII CCG this year and their fans respond by chanting "Big Ten, Big Ten, Big Ten..." as the clock winds down, I just might have to join them.

That Big XII CCG is semi-permanently here in Dallas (the Whorns have to have a home game if they're in it, of course) so when Nebraska makes it this year, I'll be there, and start that chant! :)

 

[ScriptOhio]

Please don't ever chant "BIG TEN"

The "SEC" chant is probably the most pathetic thing in college football. Are SEC fans really that insecure and/or outright dumb? Alabama and Florida were good this year. The rest of the conference was either mediocre or downright sucked b@lls. If you're an Alabama fan about to win your first NC since 1992, why on earth would you want to remind the nation that South Carolina got punked by UConn? Be thankful you only gave up 2 td's to Colt McCoy's freshman backup.

I've been following college football since the mid-80's and up until a few years ago, I don't ever recall the whole "our conference is better than you're conference" stupidity being an overwhelming theme of college football. And now, thanks to SEC fans and ESPN, it's all we hear anymore.

Where was the "SEC" chant when ESPN was claiming the '02 Hurricanes were the greatest college team of all-time? Where was the "SEC" chant when ESPN was claiming the '05 Trojans were the greatest college team of all-time? Please, SEC fans - shelve the dumb chant and recognize that in the past few years you've had INDIVIDUAL TEAMS that have been very good (just like every other damn conference). It's got nothing to do with the "SEC". Your sucky teams still suck.

When Florida St. won the BCS NC, no one chanted "ACC"
When Oklahoma won the BCS NC, no one chanted "Big 12"
When Miami won the BCS NC, no one chanted "Big East"
When Ohio St. won the BCS NC, no one chanted "Big 10"
When USC won the BCS NC, no one chanted "Pac 10"
When Texas won the BCS NC, no one chanted "Big 12"

So please, just stop. It's lame, it's annoying, and it's desperate. Florida & Alabama aren't good because of the "SEC". They're good because they are INDIVIDUALLY good programs. Every conference has individual programs that are good and every conference has individual programs that are not good.​

Last edited by Don Unverferth; 01-08-2010 at 09:59 PM.

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[Tonyank]

Please don't ever chant "BIG TEN"

The "SEC" chant is probably the most pathetic thing in college football. Are SEC fans really that insecure and/or outright dumb? Alabama and Florida were good this year. The rest of the conference was either mediocre or downright sucked b@lls. If you're an Alabama fan about to win your first NC since 1992, why on earth would you want to remind the nation that South Carolina got punked by UConn? Be thankful you only gave up 2 td's to Colt McCoy's freshman backup.

I've been following college football since the mid-80's and up until a few years ago, I don't ever recall the whole "our conference is better than you're conference" stupidity being an overwhelming theme of college football. And now, thanks to SEC fans and ESPN, it's all we hear anymore.

Where was the "SEC" chant when ESPN was claiming the '02 Hurricanes were the greatest college team of all-time? Where was the "SEC" chant when ESPN was claiming the '05 Trojans were the greatest college team of all-time? Please, SEC fans - shelve the dumb chant and recognize that in the past few years you've had INDIVIDUAL TEAMS that have been very good (just like every other damn conference). It's got nothing to do with the "SEC". Your sucky teams still suck.

When Florida St. won the BCS NC, no one chanted "ACC"
When Oklahoma won the BCS NC, no one chanted "Big 12"
When Miami won the BCS NC, no one chanted "Big East"
When Ohio St. won the BCS NC, no one chanted "Big 10"
When USC won the BCS NC, no one chanted "Pac 10"
When Texas won the BCS NC, no one chanted "Big 12"

So please, just stop. It's lame, it's annoying, and it's desperate. Florida & Alabama aren't good because of the "SEC". They're good because they are INDIVIDUALLY good programs. Every conference has individual programs that are good and every conference has individual programs that are not good.​

Last edited by Don Unverferth; 01-08-2010 at 09:59 PM.

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[DaddyBigBucks]

Please don't ever chant "BIG TEN"

The "SEC" chant is probably the most pathetic thing in college football. Are SEC fans really that insecure and/or outright dumb? Alabama and Florida were good this year. The rest of the conference was either mediocre or downright sucked b@lls. If you're an Alabama fan about to win your first NC since 1992, why on earth would you want to remind the nation that South Carolina got punked by UConn? Be thankful you only gave up 2 td's to Colt McCoy's freshman backup.

I've been following college football since the mid-80's and up until a few years ago, I don't ever recall the whole "our conference is better than you're conference" stupidity being an overwhelming theme of college football. And now, thanks to SEC fans and ESPN, it's all we hear anymore.

Where was the "SEC" chant when ESPN was claiming the '02 Hurricanes were the greatest college team of all-time? Where was the "SEC" chant when ESPN was claiming the '05 Trojans were the greatest college team of all-time? Please, SEC fans - shelve the dumb chant and recognize that in the past few years you've had INDIVIDUAL TEAMS that have been very good (just like every other damn conference). It's got nothing to do with the "SEC". Your sucky teams still suck.

When Florida St. won the BCS NC, no one chanted "ACC"
When Oklahoma won the BCS NC, no one chanted "Big 12"
When Miami won the BCS NC, no one chanted "Big East"
When Ohio St. won the BCS NC, no one chanted "Big 10"
When USC won the BCS NC, no one chanted "Pac 10"
When Texas won the BCS NC, no one chanted "Big 12"

So please, just stop. It's lame, it's annoying, and it's desperate. Florida & Alabama aren't good because of the "SEC". They're good because they are INDIVIDUALLY good programs. Every conference has individual programs that are good and every conference has individual programs that are not good.
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Last edited by Don Unverferth; 01-08-2010 at 09:59 PM.

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I agree with about all of that.

But the chant by the Nebraska fans will mean something so very much different than what SEC fans mean by their chant. And that is why I will embrace it if it happens.

And I will hope that it never happens again.

 

[Zurp]

Seriously, Pitt. Go away. What part of 72-0 didn't make that clear?

I know this isn't on-topic, but I saw this on Youtube today and remembered the rumors of when Pitt would join the Big Ten.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JspshPna-bs]YouTube - David Boston's punt return TD (w/ only 7 blockers) - Pitt 1996[/ame]

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Can I get a "Fuck Mark May"?

I know this isn't on-topic, but I saw this on Youtube today and remembered the rumors of when Pitt would join the Big Ten.

YouTube - David Boston's punt return TD (w/ only 7 blockers) - Pitt 1996

 

[Jake]

I know this isn't on-topic, but I saw this on Youtube today and remembered the rumors of when Pitt would join the Big Ten.

YouTube - David Boston's punt return TD (w/ only 7 blockers) - Pitt 1996

The 72-0 debacle was bad enough, but the year before the Bucks won 54-14 at Pitt Stadium (was there ) by outscoring them 34-0 in the second half.

That's 106-0 our last 6 quarters versus Pitt.

 

[kn1f3party]

Please don't ever chant "BIG TEN"

The "SEC" chant is probably the most pathetic thing in college football. Are SEC fans really that insecure and/or outright dumb? Alabama and Florida were good this year. The rest of the conference was either mediocre or downright sucked b@lls. If you're an Alabama fan about to win your first NC since 1992, why on earth would you want to remind the nation that South Carolina got punked by UConn? Be thankful you only gave up 2 td's to Colt McCoy's freshman backup.

I've been following college football since the mid-80's and up until a few years ago, I don't ever recall the whole "our conference is better than you're conference" stupidity being an overwhelming theme of college football. And now, thanks to SEC fans and ESPN, it's all we hear anymore.

Where was the "SEC" chant when ESPN was claiming the '02 Hurricanes were the greatest college team of all-time? Where was the "SEC" chant when ESPN was claiming the '05 Trojans were the greatest college team of all-time? Please, SEC fans - shelve the dumb chant and recognize that in the past few years you've had INDIVIDUAL TEAMS that have been very good (just like every other damn conference). It's got nothing to do with the "SEC". Your sucky teams still suck.

When Florida St. won the BCS NC, no one chanted "ACC"
When Oklahoma won the BCS NC, no one chanted "Big 12"
When Miami won the BCS NC, no one chanted "Big East"
When Ohio St. won the BCS NC, no one chanted "Big 10"
When USC won the BCS NC, no one chanted "Pac 10"
When Texas won the BCS NC, no one chanted "Big 12"

So please, just stop. It's lame, it's annoying, and it's desperate. Florida & Alabama aren't good because of the "SEC". They're good because they are INDIVIDUALLY good programs. Every conference has individual programs that are good and every conference has individual programs that are not good.​

Last edited by Don Unverferth; 01-08-2010 at 09:59 PM.

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GPA!

 

[Gatorubet]

GPA!

Finally. A new topic!

 

[kn1f3party]

I have no problem with tossing out suggestions for awards on threads quoting other threads.

 

[BuckTwenty]

Can I get a "[censored] Mark May"?

Fuck Mark May.

 

[buckeyemania11]

Lambeau Field wants Big Ten title game - College Football Nation Blog - ESPN

It's boiling here in Chicago and around most of the Midwest today, so go crank up the AC, grab a cold one and put on your parka.

Now picture this: the Big Ten championship game at historic Lambeau Field.

It could become a reality.

Green Bay Packers CEO Mark Murphy told me today that the team is "very interested" in hosting a potential Big Ten football championship game. Murphy, the former Northwestern athletic director, already has contacted the Big Ten office to express the desire in bringing the title game to Lambeau Field.
“The Big Ten has got such history and tradition, and to have a championship in Lambeau Field would be tremendous. It’d be good for our community and good for college football to have it in such a historic venue.”

Now the Big Ten hasn't actually decided to host a championship in football. There are some potential problems, as Purdue athletic director Morgan Burke recently outlined with me, but Burke and pretty much everyone around the league thinks the title game will become a reality. When it does, facilities from around the Midwest will begin bidding to host the event.

Among those interested are Chicago's Soldier Field, Detroit's Ford Field and Cleveland Browns Stadium, while Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis is considered a top candidate.

But none of those venues has the mystique and history of Lambeau Field.

The more I think about this, the more I absolutely love this idea.

For a league that cherishes its history and its stadiums, what better place than Lambeau to hold a championship game?

Yes, the logistics could be challenging. Green Bay isn't a huge place and it's not as centralized as Indianapolis, Detroit or even Cleveland. Finding enough hotel rooms for two teams and two fan bases would be tough.

And there's the weather factor. Green Bay can get downright miserable, even in early December.

But isn't that part of the charm? Murphy seems to think so.
“Early December, that’s balmy in Green Bay,” Murphy joked. “To me, that’s part of the attraction of college football, to play in the elements. We’re going to have a Super Bowl in New York in February, so it’s not that much different.”

Lambeau Field also has a seating capacity of 72,928, quite a bit larger than Soldier Field (61,500), Lucas Oil Stadium (63,000) and Ford Field (65,000). Cleveland Browns Stadium is comparable at 73,200.

According to Weather Underground, the average temperature in Green Bay on Dec. 3, the likely date for the first Big Ten championship, hovers between 18-34 degrees. Factor in the wind chill, and the stadium is anything but balmy.

But Big Ten fans can handle it, and the players would love it.

A few other nuggets and thoughts:

The Packers would use the same game operations staff for a Big Ten championship game. Murphy thinks the community would be pretty fired up about it.
Murphy said the Big Ten is still in the planning stages for how it wants to structure the league with a 12th member. "They put out requests for proposal and a number of different people bid on it," he said. "It's not that dissimilar with what the Big Ten went through with the basketball tournament."

Murphy's connection to the Big Ten could be a key factor here. As a former Big Ten athletic director, he has strong relationships with commissioner Jim Delany, other Big Ten officials and his former colleagues from around the league. Those relationships certainly can't hurt his cause.

Lambeau Field hasn't hosted college football since 1982-83, when nearby St. Norbert College played Fordham, the alma mater of legendary Packers coach Vince Lombardi, in games that raised money to fight cancer.

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out, but the Big Ten will have some great options for a title game.

 

[High Lonesome]

That Big XII CCG is semi-permanently here in Dallas (the Whorns have to have a home game if they're in it, of course) so when Nebraska makes it this year, I'll be there, and start that chant! :)

sometimes i can't believe that things lasted as long as they did

 

[BB73]

From Nebraska's last appearance an the Big XII media days.

CBS

Nebraska says so long to Big 12 with plenty of ill will

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Nebraska was used to having its way in the old Big Eight. It usually played Oklahoma for the Orange Bowl berth each year and that was that. Everything else was details.

But things changed when Texas came in the room back in the mid-1990s and declared that the new Big 12 would not allow partial qualifiers. That's where it started for Nebraska. Osborne had built part of his empire on kids who just needed a chance. They didn't have either the minimum grade-point average or high enough SAT test score. They could achieve initial eligibility with one or other but they were labeled. Prop 48s they called them, a nickname derived from the NCAA legislation.

"I was on the [Big 12] task force," said former Iowa State AD Gene Smith, now with Ohio State. "I'll never forget when [Texas] came in the room.

"Texas would not come into the league unless we eliminated the Prop 48 deal. Nebraska lived on it. Oh my God, it was like heat across the board. The animosity started back then."

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