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[Tlangs]

but by not winning the division, you're locked out of the BCS at large bid (should we get two that season

Is this true? Maybe there was a rule change but didn't Mizzou lose to Oklahoma in the B12 title game a few years ago and Kansas made the Orange Bowl as the 2nd B12 team?

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

Is this true? Maybe there was a rule change but didn't Mizzou lose to Oklahoma in the B12 title game a few years ago and Kansas made the Orange Bowl as the 2nd B12 team?

Several division runners-up have received at-large bids over CCG losers.

 

[buckiprof]

Several division runners-up have received at-large bids over CCG losers.

Sometimes they even make the NC game.

 

[gregorylee]

Sometimes they even make the NC game.

yeah but then was a perfect storm

 

[jwinslow]

Sometimes they even make the NC game.

No, they don't...

...nor will that fluke happen again.

The game had it right on the field.
The pollsters had it right.
The computer formula had it backwards, and they fixed it afterwards.

 

[buckiprof]

No, they don't...

...nor will that fluke happen again.

The game had it right on the field.
The pollsters had it right.
The computer formula had it backwards, and they fixed it afterwards.

Sorry to be nitpicky, but one can't start this off by saying "No, they don't". It did happen.

To continue and say, "nor will that fluke happen again" is fine, but it refutes the first 3 words of your reply.

Furthermore, while I might agree that things have been changed to prevent that abomination after the 2001 season from happening again, I have enough years behind me to leave open the possibility that something screwy could still happen. Now I won't be betting Pete Rose any money that it will happen, but the possibility, and it is a very remote possibility, still exists.

 

[kinch]

Ohio State is undefeated. They lose to Michigan, who has one loss, by one point on a bad call. Michigan loses to three loss Nebraska in the championship game. Every team in the country other than Ohio State has two or more losses.

Ohio State plays for the title. (Unless rules actually forbid such a thing at that time.)

 

[jwinslow]

Sorry to be nitpicky, but one can't start this off by saying "No, they don't". It did happen.

To continue and say, "nor will that fluke happen again" is fine, but it refutes the first 3 words of your reply.

Oklahoma was not a divisional runner-up.

 

[Tlangs]

i think we are talking about 2 separate things here.

first was my comment about a divional runner up being able to get into a BCS game. The second was a Conference Title Game loser going to the BCS title game.

It isnt that ulikely that a divisional runnerup could get into a BCS game (unless it is prevented by rule). It is highly unlikely that a divisional runner up could go to the BCS Title Game.

Scenario which is technically possible but highly unlikely for divisional runner-up to make Title game:every other BCS conference being very competitive with the winners being 8-4 or 9-3. 11-0 OSU and 11-0 scUM play. OSU wins and goes on to lose in Big 10 Title game to a 7-5 team. scum is 11-1 with a Loss to the #1 team in the country. OSU is 12-1 with a loss to unranked Iowa. In this scenario...the divisional runner up may get in.

 

[ochre]

2001 Nebraska Cornhuskers football team - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[jwinslow]

2001 Nebraska Cornhuskers football team - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

My mistake. I thought they lost in the CCG to the Buffs.

 

[Zurp]

Is this true? Maybe there was a rule change but didn't Mizzou lose to Oklahoma in the B12 title game a few years ago and Kansas made the Orange Bowl as the 2nd B12 team?

Yep. And the way I understand it, Missouri fans are still upset about it, since I believe that they beat Kansas.

2007 Kansas Schedule: Kansas Football - Jayhawks Schedule - College Football - ESPN (Orange Bowl)
2007 Missouri Schedule: Missouri Football - Tigers Schedule - College Football - ESPN (Cotton Bowl)

Kansas was 11-0, and lost to 10-1 Missouri. (So both teams were 11-1 after that game.) Missouri got to go to the CCG, and lost to Oklahoma, and fell to 11-2. The Orange Bowl picked 11-1 Kansas over 11-2 Missouri.

The explanation that I heard (not from anyone who might be considered a BCS official) was that losing a CCG can hurt the chances that a fanbase would be willing to travel to a bowl game. And since money is the main reason one team gets chosen over another, the Orange Bowl decided to choose Kansas, and not Missouri.

 

[DallasHusker]

What could be more classic than cowtown taking on the corn huskers?

Now I'm confused! The Huskers may be taking on some team from Fort Worth? :tongue2:

 

[FCollinsBuckeye]

Now I'm confused! The Huskers may be taking on some team from Fort Worth? :tongue2:

From Wikipedia

Cowtown is generally thought of as a smaller town, another word for a "hicktown" or "backwards" town. It also sometimes refers to towns that participated in the beef industry in the late 1800s and that had many stockyards, slaughterhouses and related structures, as well as a frequent main destination of major cattle-drives.

The Webster's New Millennium Dictionary of English defines a cowtown as "a small, isolated, and rather unsophisticated town".

Cowtown is a nickname for:

• Columbus, Ohio
• Cowaramup, Western Australia
• Calgary, Alberta
• Fort Worth, Texas
• Hamilton, New Zealand
• Vacaville, California - Although 'Vacaville' can be translated from Spanish to English as 'cow town', the city actually takes its name from one of its first modern-day inhabitants, Juan Manuel Vaca.

 

[DallasHusker]

From Wikipedia

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Hehe! Wasn't trying to be serious, thus the attempt to show so with the emoticons in my message.