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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
    313
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starBUCKS;1715501; said:
Osborne: One team leaving a conference doesn't end the conference, two teams leaving a conference doesn't end the conference, six teams leaving a conference, ends a conference.
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You forgot the part where he jumped up on the podium, dropped his pants, mooned the camera, and yelled, "Kiss my ass DeLoss!!!"
 
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Now that it's official, the question is: Why Nebraska? Going into the process, the conventional wisdom was that the Big Ten was expanding to open up new television markets so that it could generate more money for the Big Ten Network. Well, if that was the plan, then Nebraska really adds nothing in the way of viewers and revenue. So why did Nebraska receive the invitation?

1. This is about maintaining the "vision" of the Big Ten (midwest, flagship, land grant,AAU schools). Nebraska certainly fits the bill on all counts, but so do Missouri and Iowa State. Obviously, at least one more factor was involved.

2. This was strictly a football move. Under any set of criteria, Nebraska is a top ten football program ... but so are Texas and Notre Dame. So why was Nebraska more desirable?

3. This was the best "stand alone" move. Texas is still deciding on which pastures are greener (Big Ten or Pac 10), and they may have to bring at least one little brother along for the ride (aTm, Tech). Notre Dame is still trying to figure out if it wants to live in the 19th century or the 21st. Nebraska had no such complications ... and if Nebraska is the only addition, it might not be the "dream date" that is Texas or Notre Dame, but it sure the hell beats Rutgers, Pitt, Syracuse, Missouri, Maryland, Georgia Tech, etc. etc. etc.

4. This isn't the big fish. Locking up Nebraska first might help to sway the real big players - Texas and Notre Dame - who might like the idea of joining a conference that has its own TV network, the academic resources of the CIC, AND four top ten football programs (Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, Nebraska).

This is a great move - if twelve is the final number, then the Big Ten just got a school that meets all of it's target criteria (midwest, AAU, land grant, flagship) plus a top ten football program. If twelve is not the final number (and in an ideal world it isn't), then Nebraska gives the conference even more prestige that can be used to persuade others (Texas, Notre Dame) to join.
 
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LordJeffBuck;1715521; said:
Now that it's official, the question is: Why Nebraska? Going into the process, the conventional wisdom was that the Big Ten was expanding to open up new television markets so that it could generate more money for the Big Ten Network. Well, if that was the plan, then Nebraska really adds nothing in the way of viewers and revenue. So why did Nebraska receive the invitation?

1. This is about maintaining the "vision" of the Big Ten (midwest, flagship, land grant,AAU schools). Nebraska certainly fits the bill on all counts, but so do Missouri and Iowa State. Obviously, at least one more factor was involved.

2. This was strictly a football move. Under any set of criteria, Nebraska is a top ten football program ... but so are Texas and Notre Dame. So why was Nebraska more desirable?

3. This was the best "stand alone" move. Texas is still deciding on which pastures are greener (Big Ten or Pac 10), and they may have to bring at least one little brother along for the ride (aTm, Tech). Notre Dame is still trying to figure out if it wants to live in the 19th century or the 21st. Nebraska had no such complications ... and if Nebraska is the only addition, it might not be the "dream date" that is Texas or Notre Dame, but it sure the hell beats Rutgers, Pitt, Syracuse, Missouri, Maryland, Georgia Tech, etc. etc. etc.

4. This isn't the big fish. Locking up Nebraska first might help to sway the real big players - Texas and Notre Dame - who might like the idea of joining a conference that has its own TV network, the academic resources of the CIC, AND four top ten football programs (Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, Nebraska).

This is a great move - if twelve is the final number, then the Big Ten just got a school that meets all of it's target criteria (midwest, AAU, land grant, flagship) plus a top ten football program. If twelve is not the final number (and in an ideal world it isn't), then Nebraska gives the conference even more prestige that can be used to persuade others )Texas, Notre Dame) to join.
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#4.

Nebraska is the only school that fits into pretty much any expansion scenario, and they are a catalyst to get the other dominos to fall.
 
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LordJeffBuck;1715521; said:
Now that it's official, the question is: Why Nebraska? Going into the process, the conventional wisdom was that the Big Ten was expanding to open up new television markets so that it could generate more money for the Big Ten Network. Well, if that was the plan, then Nebraska really adds nothing in the way of viewers and revenue. So why did Nebraska receive the invitation?

1. This is about maintaining the "vision" of the Big Ten (midwest, flagship, land grant,AAU schools). Nebraska certainly fits the bill on all counts, but so do Missouri and Iowa State. Obviously, at least one more factor was involved.

2. This was strictly a football move. Under any set of criteria, Nebraska is a top ten football program ... but so are Texas and Notre Dame. So why was Nebraska more desirable?

3. This was the best "stand alone" move. Texas is still deciding on which pastures are greener (Big Ten or Pac 10), and they may have to bring at least one little brother along for the ride (aTm, Tech). Notre Dame is still trying to figure out if it wants to live in the 19th century or the 21st. Nebraska had no such complications ... and if Nebraska is the only addition, it might not be the "dream date" that is Texas or Notre Dame, but it sure the hell beats Rutgers, Pitt, Syracuse, Missouri, Maryland, Georgia Tech, etc. etc. etc.

4. This isn't the big fish. Locking up Nebraska first might help to sway the real big players - Texas and Notre Dame - who might like the idea of joining a conference that has its own TV network, the academic resources of the CIC, AND four top ten football programs (Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, Nebraska).

This is a great move - if twelve is the final number, then the Big Ten just got a school that meets all of it's target criteria (midwest, AAU, land grant, flagship) plus a top ten football program. If twelve is not the final number (and in an ideal world it isn't), then Nebraska gives the conference even more prestige that can be used to persuade others )Texas, Notre Dame) to join.
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GPA?

I don't see Nebraska as settling at all. Despite the candor by many UT fans, Nebraska is a desirable school by any conference that can get them. If we stopped at 12, we accomplished a lot with expansion and we've maintained the formula that has worked for so many years, the tradition...
 
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LordJeffBuck;1715521; said:
This is a great move - if twelve is the final number, then the Big Ten just got a school that meets all of it's target criteria (midwest, AAU, land grant, flagship) plus a top ten football program. If twelve is not the final number (and in an ideal world it isn't), then Nebraska gives the conference even more prestige that can be used to persuade others (Texas, Notre Dame) to join.
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This. It means a B10CG in the case of no other new schools, also entices the other two HRs...

FWIW Joe Schad via the SVPelt show still saying the 5 less aTm to the P10... that being said, I'm guessing his source is Chip Brown...
 
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High Lonesome;1715523; said:
well, the Baylor part yes but tech is a state school and much more difficult to get around imo
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I was always wondering why Tech would pose a problem. Texas and A&M are 2/3 of the state schools. I would hope if those two combined forces they could push Tech to the side. Especially since the governor is an A&M grad.

I think the only politcal cover they needed was that Texas couldn't be the one seen as the one blowing up the Big XII. Thanks to Colorado, Nebraska & Missouri the coast is clear.
 
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A possible wrench in Delany's master plan - CFN's Matthew Zemek is speculating that the MWC took Boise State today since they may not see themselves getting Big 12 leftovers Kansas/K St/Iowa State.

If the Big East could get those schools, and the Big East has great bball for Kansas and is an AQ conference for football, then it could hope to survive without ND even if the SEC/ACC poach a couple of schools.

CFN

Matt Zemek

On Monday, Mountain West Commissioner Craig Thompson decided to wait. He refused to bring Boise State to his league on June 7. The big question, obviously, is this: ?What changed in the past 100 hours that would make the MWC pull the trigger?? If you know the answer to this question, you likely know the direction of conference realignment.

For now, however, most of us are still groping in the dark and fumbling around for some greater degree of clarity. One can only guess what this move means for the rest of this rapidly-shifting college sports landscape. The feeling here is that if the Mountain West had any realistic chance of hauling in Kansas and Kansas State ? which are more geographically proximate to the league compared to the Big East ? it would have continued to make Boise wait. The addition of the Broncos suggests that KU and K-State, along with Iowa State and very possibly Missouri, could all be heading to the Big East when this game of musical chairs ends.

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Dryden;1715527; said:
How long does the application process take? Weeks? Months?

Technically, it's still not official. UNL could always be rejected. That'd suck for them.
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I am sure NU already knows it is a formality, just like their "application" is a formality. :). Sure sounds like it will be days.
 
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