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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%
  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%
  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%
  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%
  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%
  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%
  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%
  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%
  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%
  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%
  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%
  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%
  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%
  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%
  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%
  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%
  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%
  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%
  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%
  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%

  • Total voters
    313
kinch;1715014; said:
I have a source that says Texas A&M and Oklahoma to the SEC is all but a done deal, and that Texas is trying to blackmail the Big Ten which may cost us Notre Dame. Apparently the SEC is courting Virginia Tech and an unnamed other school too. Apparently now the Big Ten is reeling. . .

She would have said more but she has some boxes to deliver.

The Big 10 can well afford to miss out on the schools the SEC is interested in. A&M was the first school to blow the doors off the pay scale for a coach when they went after Jackie Sherrill, (and a subsequent trip to probation land) Okie academics and recruiting practices will remain the same. Seems as if the you-can't-go-to-the-dance-if-you-don't-take-your-sister rule applies only to Texas.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footba...till-got-the-old-Midas-touch?urn=ncaaf,155271
 
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My take on this, and why I think Texas is a lock in the Big Ten:

Today is going to be the pivotal day, where everything goes down or at least the real dominoes begin to fall. It is expected Nebraska will be announcing at least their intention to join the Big Ten today. This is what everyone is waiting on. The Big XII can realistically sustain losing Colorado to the Pac-10. They could sustain losing Missouri. If Nebraska bolts, game over. It has been said for a long time Texas needs a change to be the last resort. I believe OB has become a UT propaganda outlet meant only to further the goal of an imminent move to the Big Ten for Texas. As stated in the post before, what they are doing directly allows them to buy time, create a public image of attempting to save the conference, and get out of this smelling good. I believe the Big Ten is heading to 14 and that 14 will include Nebraska, Notre Dame, and Texas.

Why you can't buy this Chip Brown / Orangebloods information:

After seriously thinking about this, it occurred to me that a Pac-16 as reported is just never going to happen. I believe that Larry Scott wants to expand his conference and will do just that. However, I don't think the usual suspects have changed for them. Colorado has been a name floated for eternity. Texas has as well. I believe that they want Texas, and I believe that for that to happen they would have to really bend over backwards to accommodate them. I think the only ounce of truth to any of this is that Texas probably floated this idea by them early on, but merely to play hard to get and weaken the Pac-10's ability to negotiate with them. The Pac-10 and the other five purported schools just do not fit together. Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State would likely never receive consideration by the Pac-10--and they probably haven't still. The Pac-10 is more like us than the SEC, and we know we wouldn't do it. A&M and OU are SEC material. If they have the ability to join that conference and immediately begin to make more money than they do now in TV revenue, I believe they are going to take it. The Pac-10 will likely move beyond 11, but they will stick within the pacific / mountain regions to do it. We've brought this up over and over, and A&M brought it up again--it has become the football program's responsibility to carry the rest of the school's athletic programs. While increased projected revenue might sound nice, they are also looking at the red. Namely, they are looking at how ridiculously expensive it will be to compete in their conference in all of their non-revenue sports. By dividing the proposed Pac-16 the way that has been suggested, you really do have two conferences and you are going to see a lot of bickering back and forth. You have the original 8, and the new 8. All of it just stinks. It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't even seem plausible. I believe Chip was accurate in the beginning, but for whatever reason he is way off base now. Big XII schools care a little bit about football. The culture is just different in the Pac-10. I expect we aren't going to see any zebras or tigers change their strips in this expansion fiasco. Nobody is going somewhere that doesn't fit.

What is taking so long?

Notre Dame and Texas both need assistance to make the move. Both have to maintain face throughout this process and in the case of Texas, that will come by appearing to have done all they could but in the end it not being enough. In the case of Notre Dame, they need expansion by multiple conferences to create an illusion of the 16-team super conferences that people believe are coming. This will allow them to make a move under the guise of being preemptive and avoiding losing out on a chair when the music stops. I think the stakes are Nebraska, Notre Dame, and Texas--we couldn't have landed three other schools that fit what we currently have and add to our prowess any better. I think we're rounding third on this one, and we just need the dominoes to begin to fall once Nebraska makes their announcement. This should be an exciting weekend. Lets see what happens.
 
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Oh8ch;1715059; said:
Since I can't make any money, here is what my hairdresser just PMd me:

Texas has wanted the Big Ten from the start.
Much of what has been going on is posturing to get the best deal they can.
Research dollars trump athletic dollars - so in the end the athletic department will yield to what is best for the school.

You have hair???

cincibuck;1715158; said:
... Seems as if the you-can't-go-to-the-dance-if-you-don't-take-your-sister rule applies only to Texas...

But they can go to the dance without their sister if their sister would rather go do meth under the bleachers with the drop-out from the other side of the tracks? Got it.
 
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Assuming Nebraska, ND, and Texas join the Big 10 to give the conference a total of 14 teams what would the name be?

In my opinion we could keep the conference name the same and just have the 10 stand for the 10 states.
Ohio
Michigan
Pennsylvania
Minnesota
Wisconsin
Iowa
Illinois
Indiana
Nebraska
Texas

Here is my question. If we change the name do we lose all of our tradition of winning past conference championships? Obviously we have still won all of the championships and no one can take that away from us but I could see that as a major sticking point to ND and Texas.
 
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Nebraska regents to discuss potential move to Big Ten

LINCOLN, Neb. (AP) -- Members of the University of Nebraska Board of Regents say they'll come armed with questions when chancellor Harvey Perlman and athletic director Tom Osborne brief them on whether the Cornhuskers should leave the Big 12 Conference.
The regents will take up the conference-alignment issue at their 1 p.m. meeting Friday in Lincoln. They say they expect to hear the pros and cons of joining the Big Ten.
The football-driven move would allow the Huskers to double their conference-derived revenue, to about $20 million in the Big Ten.
But regent Randy Ferlic says he wants to know, among other things, whether the financial gains would be offset by harm to the Huskers' other 22 sports.
After the briefing, regents could vote to leave the Big 12.


Read more: Nebraska regents to discuss potential move to Big Ten - NCAA Football - SI.com

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AuTX Buckeye;1715021; said:
Texas can try to blackmail the Big Ten all they want...
I pretty much figured kinch's post there was a joke, not only because he cited the UPS girl as his source. How exactly is Texas going to "blackmail" the BigTen? Tell Penn State that the BigTen is cheating on her?
 
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Texas is not in active discussions with the Big Ten
that seems to be impossible at this point and if it is true, incredibly stupid

and I like how this

Despite Internet reports and rumors

is used to try to bolster their report... how about this

despite terrible reporting from your piece of shit news organizations, Texas and the Big Ten are almost certainly having active discussions, whether or not anything will come of them is another matter
 
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Dryden;1715186; said:
Texas is not in active discussions with the Big Ten ... somebody might want to notify Powers, Gee, and Delany then, because they've had their email accounts hijacked.

I prefer to look at it like this. The statement is true. The talks are over, probably have been for a while, the deals are done.

Now UT & the Big Ten are just having fun watching people report on "the Big 12 missile crisis" or " college football Armageddon" depending who you read. Its one way to squeeze more media time for perspective recruits and more money outta their boosters.
 
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AuTX Buckeye;1715195; said:
I prefer to look at it like this. The statement is true. The talks are over, probably have been for a while, the deals are done.

Now UT & the Big Ten are just having fun watching people report on "the Big 12 missile crisis" or " college football Armageddon" depending who you read. Its one way to squeeze more media time for perspective recruits and more money outta their boosters.


Also, never discount the amount of Texas pride (ok maybe arrogance) in this whole thing.

I have no doubt that Texas wants to be THE story here and will keep everyone waiting as long as possible so that at the end Texas will be the beautiful bride walking down the aisle that everyone is looking at.
 
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R.C. Slocum's comments are pretty interesting:

Former Texas A&M football coach R.C. Slocum, who now works as a special adviser to Loftin, said football programs are carrying an increased financial burden to support other sports, so they're drawn to potentially massive TV contracts for more revenue.

"You look at the level of funding that all programs need to have, and it's a business decision that universities now have to make," Slocum said.

Slocum said any decision A&M makes will be based purely on its financial impact, and not on more intangible elements, like preserving traditions and rivalries.

Read more: Texas, Texas A&M meeting to discuss Big 12 future - NCAA Football - SI.com
 
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High Lonesome;1715199; said:
Also, never discount the amount of Texas pride (ok maybe arrogance) in this whole thing.

I have no doubt that Texas wants to be THE story here and will keep everyone waiting as long as possible so that at the end Texas will be the beautiful bride walking down the aisle that everyone is looking at.


Yes that is a big big deal to the folks of Texas. Not being a native Texan, in some ways I wish every state's folks were a little more arrogant about their state, might make the country a little better place.

High Lonesome - I can't remember ever hearing from Ketch or Chip any hint of well we might be wrong, are they even considering that?
 
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