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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
    313
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The more I think about it, the more I can't see Texas in the Pac 10. First, if Texas wants to increase its exposure, the plan has to be to go east, not west. Don't you think Texas would prefer to be on TVs in NYC and Chicago than it would to be on TVs in Seattle?

Likewise, when thinking about a PAC10 network... there's no real "extra" exposure there either. I believe part of the reason for the BTN's success is because the Big Ten schools alumni base is located ALL OVER America. UCLA grads stay in California. Guess what? They can already watch UCLA games... and they don't need to pay for an extra channel.

I just don't see why Texas would be interested in going west, to less TVs, and playing games 2 times zones away.... for less money.

Texas to the SEC seems beyond reasonable possibility. I'd expect the SEC to grab Flast, Miami, Ga Tech and Clemson...
 
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Sorry for the quick/less than full post-- I'm on the run. . .

But: check out the Rutgers Rival board. "Inside Sources" there have it "Done" that Rutgers gets offered next, then Maryland, then negotiate with Notre Dame. . .
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1714611; said:
I'd expect the SEC to grab Flast, Miami, Ga Tech and Clemson...
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Problem with the Fla St and Miami additions is that they don't add anything other than names. Fair weather fanbases predominantly located in a state already in the footprint means that all the SEC would wind up doing is splitting the pie 14 ways instead of 12 without any increase in revenue.

It makes geographic sense, but I'm not sure if its good for business.
 
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Dryden;1714617; said:
Problem with the Fla St and Miami additions is that they don't add anything other than names. Fair weather fanbases predominantly located in a state already in the footprint means that all the SEC would wind up doing is splitting the pie 14 ways instead of 12 without any increase in revenue.

It makes geographic sense, but I'm not sure if its good for business.
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Yeah, I see your point, but I don't think the SEC really worries about its footprint. The Midwest is losing population... the SEC region is gaining it. They don't need to go to NYC.. they don't need to have a presence in Chicago... SEC is a different animal.
 
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Dryden said:
Problem with the Fla St and Miami additions is that they don't add anything other than names. Fair weather fanbases predominantly located in a state already in the footprint means that all the SEC would wind up doing is splitting the pie 14 ways instead of 12 without any increase in revenue.

It makes geographic sense, but I'm not sure if its good for business.
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Agreed Dryden. Maybe GatorUBet can add how UF feels about sharing the Florida SEC pie with Miami and FSU. Clemson makes a lot of sense as does A&M. And if Texas spurns the Pac-10 for the Big 10 it seems like the Big 12 South schools may not have a home in the new Pac-10 either. I've heard that the SEC might be interested in OU in that case, extending the reach west.

I think we all keep hoping that UT can shake itself of Tech.
 
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The other question is how does the SEC deal work? Do they get more dollars for conference footprints? Or is it merely the volume of eyeballs for ESPN ratings?

Could they snag Missouri to go with Tech or ATM?

I'm not sure what kind of following Kansas has, but their basketball would bring some ratings to a sparse bball conference.
zincfinger;1714619; said:
Most of the state of Texas would fit in somewhat well with the SEC. But Austin is San Francisco with a cowboy hat.
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They don't call the rest tee-shirt fans for nothing.
 
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Also: talk radio here has it that the dominoes will fall like this: Rutgers, then Maryland, then either: 1: add Syracuse and negotiate with Notre Dame, if it fails add Missouri or 2) negotiate with Notre Dame, add Syracuse after, and Missouri if necessary (or another team).
 
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t_BuckeyeScott;1714620; said:
Agreed Dryden. Maybe GatorUBet can add how UF feels about sharing the Florida SEC pie with Miami and FSU. Clemson makes a lot of sense as does A&M. And if Texas spurns the Pac-10 for the Big 10 it seems like the Big 12 South schools may not have a home in the new Pac-10 either. I've heard that the SEC might be interested in OU in that case, extending the reach west.

I think we all keep hoping that UT can shake itself of Tech.
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That's the thing... If the PAC 10 doesn't get Texas... who do they end up with? BYU? Boise St?

Does OU really want to go play games out west? (Incidentally, OU has to be a little pissed no one "wants" them).

Seems to me, the PAC 10 has a lot of eggs in the Texas basket.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
That's the thing... If the PAC 10 doesn't get Texas... who do they end up with? BYU? Boise St?
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
Seems to me, the PAC 10 has a lot of eggs in the Texas basket.
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Moving your quotes around a little bit for ease of use.
If no UT then, yeah, I don't know what the Pac-10 does. Seems like if the Big 10 could end up at 14. The Pac-10 goes finishes off with Utah. Some Big 12 South teams to SEC. MWC, CUSA, Big East for the rest?

Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
Does OU really want to go play games out west? (Incidentally, OU has to be a little pissed no one "wants" them).
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Living here, I'm not sure how many of them (OU people) are smart enough to realize that. I think maybe the upper people (school President) do, but it doesn't seem like Stoops gets it from some of his quotes nor the AD.
 
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TheIronColonel;1714634; said:
If we add Rutgers, Maryland, and Syracuse, I vote that OSU leaves the Big Ten.
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And go where exactly? You have another 40 million annual contract lined up? The SEC has about half that and won't come close without Texas, who isn't coming.
Diluting the conference like would only serve to make us look like the Big Least.
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Yeah, Maryland is really terrible :roll2:

There's also the matter of who the 5th team is, which is likely Notre Dame, adding 3 strong bball schools and 2 overall athletic juggernauts to the mix.
 
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