Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Frank the Tank citing Purple Book Cat, as well:

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Instead of playing 8 games, both Texas and ND would play 7 to enable each school to play 6 out of conference games.

I thought the maximum number of games in a season a team can play is 12, plus a conference championship game and a bowl game. If this is true, how can a team play 7 conference games, and 6 out-of-conference games?

 

[Dryden]

John Junker to be on 97.1 at 2:00 to talk about future of Insight and Fiesta bowls

 

[BB73]

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I thought the maximum number of games in a season a team can play is 12, plus a conference championship game and a bowl game. If this is true, how can a team play 7 conference games, and 6 out-of-conference games?
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Yes. 12 is the maximum of regular season games, unless a Hawaii game is scheduled.

 

[sepia5]

Yes. 12 is the maximum of regular season games, unless a Hawaii game is scheduled.

Assuming aTm would be part of a Texas-to-the-Big-Ten scenario, I don't know why they'd need 6 out-of-conference games anyway. Play Oklahoma, Tech, occassionally or always Baylor, and couple other Texas scrub schools, maybe still have the leeway to schedule any other team from outside the state of Texas that you want. Hell, even if aTm didn't come along, why would you need 6 out-of-conference games?

 

[ScriptOhio]

Domino #1: Nebraska to the BIG 10
Domino #2: Colorado to the PAC 10

They are really starting to fall now.

 

[OSU_D/]

More baggage for Texas...

ChipBrownOB

RT @thatsean: Oklahoma AD Joe Castiglione confirmed to the Tulsa World that the SEC has shown interests, but that OU will follow Texas.

 

[ScriptOhio]

If accademics is actually a consideration:

Rutgers football achieved the nation?s No. 1 ranking in Academic Progress Rate, a crucial index that can cost a program scholarships if it does not meet NCAA requirements. Instead of facing that embarrassing scenario, Rutgers can proudly boast of a football program whose academics over the last four seasons was better than Air Force, which was second, followed by Rice, Northwestern and Duke. ? NY Post

Entire article: Rutgers football heads NCAA class - NYPOST.com

 

[AuTX Buckeye]

More baggage for Texas...

OU can say that all they want. UT would love nothing better to [censored]'em. So keep that in mind. I think there might be one last ditch effort to save the Big 12... after that its either PAC 10 or Big 10... A UT grad about vomited when I said something about going to the SEC.

Have i mentioned yet that most UT grads don't really care for Gov. Rick Perry?

 

[OSU_D/]

OU can say that all they want. UT would love nothing better to [censored]'em. So keep that in mind. I think there might be one last ditch effort to save the Big 12... after that its either PAC 10 or Big 10... A UT grad about vomited when I said something about going to the SEC.

If Delany brings home Texas without taking a school from the state of OK and w/o Tech (I don't mind A&M) I may send a check to the Big 10 to help pay his salary!

Note I am not saying how much I'd send

 

[Gatorubet]

From what I am reading, the SEC has already locked down their television deal, so any expansion would dilute their revenue rather than expand it.

Slive. Made sure that a clause was inclued that allowed for a contract review if there was any significant change to the conference. Adding any team that would allow access to the significant Texas tv market would seem to invoke that clause, and allow for renegotiation.

 

[Gatorubet]

A UT grad about vomited when I said something about going to the SEC.

While the better academics in the Big-10 are indeed a key ingredient in that belief, many Horns also think they would have achieve greater athletic success and find a much easier path to championships in the Big-10 than the SEC.

FWIW.

 

[jwinslow]

Slive. Made sure that a clause was inclued that allowed for a contract review if there was any significant change to the conference. Adding any team that would allow access to the significant Texas tv market would seem to invoke that clause, and allow for renegotiation.

Is Texas A&M a significant change to the conference? They are 3.25 hrs from SA & Dallas. Their only close market is Houston, which is 1.75 hrs.

Texas isn't coming. They despise the SEC with every ounce of their being. Texas can rule the Pac-10 and manipulate it to do their bidding, especially if USC crumbles back into irrelevance like before the fairweather fans had a reason to pay attention.

Either way you're talking about a different kind of bump than what Texas can bring to an expanding BTN or potential PTN (even if that's much more risky).

While the better academics in the Big-10 are indeed a key ingredient in that belief, many Horns also think they would have achieve greater athletic success and find a much easier path to championships in the Big-10 than the SEC.

FWIW.

That merely adds another to the long list of reasons they want no part of the SEC, however much lower than cultural, academic & other reasons.

 

[Gatorubet]

Is Texas A&M a significant change to the conference? They are 3.25 hrs from SA & Dallas. Their only close market is Houston, which is 1.75 hrs.

Why God made lawyers.

Texas isn't coming. They despise the SEC with every ounce of their being.

I know, huh? That feeling is reciprocated, but as despising each other is our normal day, that would not interfere with wanting them as a jewel in our crown.

Texas can rule the Pac-10 and manipulate it to do their bidding, especially if USC crumbles back into irrelevance like before the fair weather fans had a reason to pay attention.That merely adds another to the long list of reasons they want no part of the SEC, however much lower than cultural, academic & other reasons.

Agree that they would dominate the PAC-10, as it stands. We are a much better cultural fit with good 'ole boy Confederate Texas than the PAC-10 and the Big-10, IMO.

Will not make a difference, however.

 

[jwinslow]

I know ATM has major support, I just don't have any clue what kind of market they bring by themselves, especially in a fragmented state where the little boys run off to irrelevance in the pac-10, the juggernaut heads north (with their footprint imposing BTN), and the SEC lands someone between those two groups.

I know, huh? That feeling is reciprocated, but as despising each other is our normal day, that would not interfere with wanting them as a jewel in our crown.

The east coast seems like a more viable option, but not as lucrative.

Agree that they would dominate the PAC-10, as it stands. We are a much better cultural fit with good 'ole boy Confederate Texas than the PAC-10 and the Big-10, IMO.

They'd rather slap their mother than admit they share any cultural fit with y'all though

Their fans & football tradition falls in line with the SEC, but that importance is overemphasized by fans like us. The academic pursuits & priorities couldn't be more opposite from the conference as a whole, despite the 16% outlier that is Florida and Vandy.

 

[Dryden]

Slive. Made sure that a clause was inclued that allowed for a contract review if there was any significant change to the conference. Adding any team that would allow access to the significant Texas tv market would seem to invoke that clause, and allow for renegotiation.

Everything is up for grabs. The BCS itself has lost one of its founding partners dating back to the original Bowl Coalition, before even the Big Ten and Pac 10 hopped on board, and that doesn't take into consideration an ACC/Big East merger should that be set in motion. All the bowl slotting agreements are shot beyond 2012. The Fiesta, Insight, Alamo, Cotton, and Holiday bowls have lost one of their partner conferences. I'm not sure what other po-dunk bottom feeder bowls the Big XII had tie-ins to, but those five are all fairly well regarded with prime TV deals and sponsors in place. The Texas State Fair and JerryWorld will have lawyers that want to get involved too if their tenants aren't showing up to pay the rent.