Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[sepia5]

Thats one of the things that makes this whole damn situation nuts. Maybe the students (they are kinda crazy tree huggers (unless its the Standford mascot)) from Cal baked up a buncha "brownies" for the conference over the weekend.

It's not just Cal and Stanford. Do you really think the Big Ten members would be willing to add the likes of the Texas schools sans UT and aTm plus schools like Oklahoma, OkSt and BYU? IMO, the Texas Big Two, or at least UT, have to be involved for either conference to bring on the academic dregs. You can't justify it otherwise.

 

[Dryden]

One thing that many of us seem to be downplaying is the importance of baseball to Texas. Sure, the academicians have a great deal of say in all of this; but if they were omnipotent, the cornhuskers would not be the lynch pin that they appear to be.

In Texas, college baseball in general and Longhorn baseball in particular are HUGE. A move to the Big 10 would be painful at best for their storied program.

As long as they join the Big Ten, they can scrimmage against themselves every year for the conference title for all I care.

They're too smart to turn down $30M a year over the baseball team. Hell, the BTN would give them a platform for nationally televised baseball games. They're not going to get that on a Longhorn Sports Network, and a Pac-16 network is not going to get serious carriage east of the Rockies, even with Texas in it.

 

[AuTX Buckeye]

It's not just Cal and Stanford. Do you really think the Big Ten members would be willing to add the likes of the Texas schools sans UT and aTm plus schools like Oklahoma, OkSt and BYU? IMO, the Texas Big Two, or at least UT, have to be involved for either conference to bring on the academic dregs. You can't justify it otherwise.

Thats the difference between the Big Ten and the PAC 10.... we wont take the academic dregs, if we would this woulda been a done deal a while ago

 

[BB73]

Colorado set to announce move to Pac-10 - Matt Hayes - College Football - Sporting News

Colorado to announce move to Pac-10 today.

I don't think this is a wise move by the Pac-10. It's a move that locks out Baylor, but it makes it more likely that Texas and aTm could go to the Big Ten, rather than be part of the 6-team move from the Big 12 to the Pac 10.

Maybe they're already worked this out in advance with Texas and aTm, but if not it's a risky move.

I definitely agree with AuTx that Texas and aTm will spend some time talking today without TTech and Baylor in the room.

 

[kn1f3party]

I don't think this is a wise move by the Pac-10. It's a move that locks out Baylor, but it makes it more likely that Texas and aTm could go to the Big Ten, rather than be part of the 6-team move from the Big 12 to the Pac 10.

Maybe they're already worked this out in advance with Texas and aTm, but if not it's a risky move.

I definitely agree with AuTx that Texas and aTm will spend some time talking today without TTech and Baylor in the room.

I think Scott is trying to secure at least a move to twelve, which he sees Utah and Colorado as the likely end game and the Big XII sticking together. Maybe he knows Baylor would get blocked and it is pointless to put a team before his conference.

 

[Dryden]

I think Scott is trying to secure at least a move to twelve, which he sees Utah and Colorado as the likely end game and the Big XII sticking together. Maybe he knows Baylor would get blocked and it is pointless to put a team before his conference.

With USC on probation, losing a quarter of their scholarships, and being coached by Lane Kiffin, coupled with a quarter of the Oregon football team being in prison, it's going to be real embarrasing for them when Utah joins the conference and immediately starts winning titles and going to the Rose Bowl.

 

[PlanetFrnd]

I don't think this is a wise move by the Pac-10. It's a move that locks out Baylor, but it makes it more likely that Texas and aTm could go to the Big Ten, rather than be part of the 6-team move from the Big 12 to the Pac 10.

Maybe they're already worked this out in advance with Texas and aTm, but if not it's a risky move.

I definitely agree with AuTx that Texas and aTm will spend some time talking today without TTech and Baylor in the room.

I agree with this... I'm surprised by the move. I'd expect that there is some information that we just don't know, but... wouldn't surprise me if the Pac10 blunders here, the only conference that has had the time to fully vet all the iterations (ok, probably not ALL) is the B10...

 

[jwinslow]

I agree, this whole decade has been epic , I just meant the biggest games were PSU with the exception of 06. Not to us fans but to the nation.[quote='BusNative;171445;9]I'd argue longer than that... there were some high-intrigue games at the onset in the 90s... despite the one-sidedness, the matchup has been good/fun almost every year...[/quote]

 

[mross34]

I read somewhere that the Big 12 needed only a simple majority to dissolve. If they dissolve the conference before leaving, the schools headed to the Pac-10 would save themselves somewhere in the ballpark of $15 million each. Why is Colorado holding this press conference before that announcement if these teams are really Pac 10-bound?

 

[BB73]

I think Scott is trying to secure at least a move to twelve, which he sees Utah and Colorado as the likely end game and the Big XII sticking together. Maybe he knows Baylor would get blocked and it is pointless to put a team before his conference.

Utah and Colorado shouldn't be the end game for the Pac Ten - they were the first two teams mentioned for the Pac Ten when this all started six months ago.

Texas is the end game (and for the Big Ten, possibly ND), and I think this move made Texas less likely for the Pac Ten.

We may know either way by tomorrow.

 

[AuTX Buckeye]

I read somewhere that the Big 12 needed only a simple majority to dissolve. If they dissolve the conference before leaving, the schools headed to the Pac-10 would save themselves somewhere in the ballpark of $15 million each. Why is Colorado holding this press conference before that announcement?

Nope its a super majority 9 outta the 12..... if they don't get it each of the schools that doesn't want to leave gets $10 Mill

 

[t_BuckeyeScott]

I'm beginning to think that ND would rather tell the alumni "We did everything we could to stay independant, but we had to join the Big 10 after everyone else went to one of the superconferences" rather than telling them "We joined the Big 10 to stop us from being required to join the Big 10 later anyway."

 

[mross34]

Nope its a super majority 9 outta the 12..... if they don't get it each of the schools that doesn't want to leave gets $10 Mill

You got a link on that 9? I can't find where I saw/heard simple majority. It might have been on the radio.

 

[AuTX Buckeye]

You got a link on that 9? I can't find where I saw/heard simple majority. It might have been on the radio.

Orangebloods.com - Source: Nebraska regents clear path to Big Ten

What remains to be seen is if there will be any schools left to collect the buyout penalties of $10 million for bolting the conference. You need a super majority of nine votes to dissolve the Big 12.

 

[Dryden]

Nope its a super majority 9 outta the 12..... if they don't get it each of the schools that doesn't want to leave gets $10 Mill

I have read the 9 of 12 clause too.

Kansas St, Iowa St, and Baylor would like to know if anybody needs their addresses.

I think Kansas gets picked up by the SEC though. It gives their super-ultimate-impossible football conference an in-conference cupcake, and it legitimizes their strength in mens hoops. Kentucky/Tennessee or Kentucky/Florida is good entertainment right now, but Kentucky/Kansas twice a year would be must-see-TV for the next 100 years (at least in the years Kentucky isn't on probation).