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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
    313
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This will be so fucking funny if Nebraska joins the Big Ten, Colorado accepts their invitation to the Pac-10 today, OU, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech take invitations to the Pac-10 and Texas and A&M ditch them for the Big Ten.

In that scenario I'd say the Pac-10 whiffs big time.
 
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kn1f3party;1714428; said:
This will be so [censored]ing funny if Nebraska joins the Big Ten, Colorado accepts their invitation to the Pac-10 today, OU, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech take invitations to the Pac-10 and Texas and A&M ditch them for the Big Ten.

In that scenario I'd say the Pac-10 whiffs big time.
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I have a feeling (or hope) that's a real possible outcome of the meeting today between Texas/ A&M... The academiac$ of the two schools may push for the smarter outcome.
 
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kn1f3party;1714434; said:
Kansas and Utah would then be viable options to get to 16 in the Pac-10.
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So you're telling me the academic elite of the Pac-10, Stanford and Cal in particular (though certainly Washington, UCLA and USC as well), would vote yes for expanding with Oklahoma, Oklahoma St., Utah, Kansas, and Texas Tech (and Colorado, which is a perfectly acceptable expansion candidate academically)? I find that hard to believe. I imagine those schools could stomach the likes of Oklahoma, OkSt and Tech if Colorado, Texas and aTm were coming along, but without Texas, in particular, I doubt it. If it's true there has to be unanimous agreement on expansion among current Pac-10 members, I think Texas and aTm to the Big Ten pretty much nixes any real Pac-10 expansion plans, given their expansion rules.
 
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sepia5;1714440; said:
So you're telling me the academic elite of the Pac-10, Stanford and Cal in particular (though certainly Washington, UCLA and USC as well), would vote yes for expanding with Oklahoma, Oklahoma St., Utah, Kansas, and Texas Tech (and Colorado, which is a perfectly acceptable expansion candidate academically)? I find that hard to believe. I imagine those schools could stomach the likes of Oklahoma, OkSt and Tech if Colorado, Texas and aTm were coming along, but without Texas, in particular, I doubt it. If it's true there has to be unanimous agreement on expansion among current Pac-10 members, I think Texas and aTm to the Big Ten pretty much nixes any real Pac-10 expansion plans, given their expansion rules.
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I don't know how much validity--I think none--there is to the story being reported a couple of days ago about Larry Scott being given carte blanche by the Pac-10 presidents. However, a Colorado move appears to be happening today. So the question is are the rest a package deal for the Pac-10 and if they can't land it they'll just find one more--probably Utah--or are they going to take a massive gamble. My odds are on the former, but Delany will have owned Scott if the latter plays out.
 
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sepia5;1714440; said:
So you're telling me the academic elite of the Pac-10, Stanford and Cal in particular (though certainly Washington, UCLA and USC as well), would vote yes for expanding with Oklahoma, Oklahoma St., Utah, Kansas, and Texas Tech (and Colorado, which is a perfectly acceptable expansion candidate academically)? I find that hard to believe. I imagine those schools could stomach the likes of Oklahoma, OkSt and Tech if Colorado, Texas and aTm were coming along, but without Texas, in particular, I doubt it. If it's true there has to be unanimous agreement on expansion among current Pac-10 members, I think Texas and aTm to the Big Ten pretty much nixes any real Pac-10 expansion plans, given their expansion rules.
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Colorado, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St., BYU, Utah and Kansas? Or go to 14 without Kansas and BYU (religous factor)

Once the Texas threesome (or foursome) is broken up... there's no such thing as a Tech problem.
 
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sepia5;1714440; said:
So you're telling me the academic elite of the Pac-10, Stanford and Cal in particular (though certainly Washington, UCLA and USC as well), would vote yes for expanding with Oklahoma, Oklahoma St., Utah, Kansas, and Texas Tech (and Colorado, which is a perfectly acceptable expansion candidate academically)? I find that hard to believe. I imagine those schools could stomach the likes of Oklahoma, OkSt and Tech if Colorado, Texas and aTm were coming along, but without Texas, in particular, I doubt it. If it's true there has to be unanimous agreement on expansion among current Pac-10 members, I think Texas and aTm to the Big Ten pretty much nixes any real Pac-10 expansion plans, given their expansion rules.
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Thats one of the things that makes this whole damn situation nuts. Maybe the students (they are kinda crazy tree huggers (unless its the Standford mascot)) from Cal baked up a buncha "brownies" for the conference over the weekend.
 
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Furthermore, you can't ruin the OSU PSU rivalry, which has been the premiere big ten game since 05. Also, PSU has a manufactured rivalry with Sparty. The big 12 split killed the OU NEB rivalry.

Also Nebraska may renew their old Iowa rivalry and perhaps add some visibility to the hawkeyes who are often fairly ignored even when good.

Tlangs;1714423; said:
It would have to be east west just due to travel for the non major sports:

East: PSU, OSU, MSU, scUM, IU, Purdue
West: Neb, Iowa, NW, IL,Minny, Wisky

from a fooball perspective this is about as even as your gonna get. Plus I don't see any "rivalries" being in seperate divisions. Unless you count the jug thingy between Minny and scUM and the axe between Wisky and scUM. We have the Illibuck with IL but we don't play them every year currently.

Basketball...East is much better than west.

I am a firm beleiver that OSU and scUM need to be in the same division so they don't have a situation where they would play eachother twice in a row.
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starBUCKS;1714452; said:
Looks like little brothers will be at today's meeting also...according toChipBrownOB (via twitter)

"Baylor and Texas Tech officials will also be at the meeting today with Texas and Texas A&M officials about those schools' futures."
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UT & A&M are gonna be winking and noding at them saying "yes, yes you can come with us, we don't want to go anywhere without you guys".

I've got money says there is either another meeting before that or after that, that is JUST UT & A&M
 
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jwinslow;1714456; said:
Furthermore, you can't ruin the OSU PSU rivalry, which has been the premiere big ten game since 05. Also, PSU has a manufactured rivalry with Sparty. The big 12 split killed the OU NEB rivalry.

Also Nebraska may renew their old Iowa rivalry and perhaps add some visibility to the hawkeyes who are often fairly ignored even when good.
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Who are the hawkeyes?
 
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One thing that many of us seem to be downplaying is the importance of baseball to Texas. Sure, the academicians have a great deal of say in all of this; but if they were omnipotent, the cornhuskers would not be the lynch pin that they appear to be.

In Texas, college baseball in general and Longhorn baseball in particular are HUGE. A move to the Big 10 would be painful at best for their storied program.
 
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DaddyBigBucks;1714461; said:
One thing that many of us seem to be downplaying is the importance of baseball to Texas. Sure, the academicians have a great deal of say in all of this; but if they were omnipotent, the cornhuskers would not be the lynch pin that they appear to be.

In Texas, college baseball in general and Longhorn baseball in particular are HUGE. A move to the Big 10 would be painful at best for their storied program.
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It maybe HUGE in terms that they are good every year but that place never sells out except for the super regionals... even that tickets are still for sale.. at UT is 1. Football, nothing is even worthy of being 2nd, basketball they are lucky to get 5k people in the stands when they are ranked #1.. same with baseball

While I agree there baseball prestige would take a hit, I wouldn't doubt them going independent in baseball
 
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