Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[kn1f3party]

Nebraska, UT, ND = win.

I'll call the Big East / Big Ten negotiations to send Notre Dame packing plausible--may be the only way to save their conference.

7 game conference schedules and no conference championship? Seems unrealistic. 7 game conference schedules to me would be two 8 team divisions sending their champion to a conference championship and that nullifies it. I can see the Big Ten making some extensions to ease the transition for UT and ND, but nothing permanent and nothing that drastic.

 

[jlb1705]

If having incoming schools play less conference games were simply a transitional thing and not permanent I think I could get behind it.

 

[IronBuckI]

There's simply too much wrong with the information in that article to take it too seriously.

1. It was already mentioned, but the Big Ten doesn't have the kind of power to guarantee an extra BCS slot.
2. 7 conference games plus 6 OOC games equals 13 games. The Big Ten does not have the power to authorize a 13th game if it doesn't fit into the exemptions laid down in the NCAA bylaws.
3. The Big Ten is not going through this whole mess and not end up with a conference championship game. The idea that this is all about money, and they're going to pass up the money generated by a CCG sounds ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as a 7-0 team being ok with losing a championship to an 8-0 team because they were allowed to play an extra home game every other year.

 

[matcar]

If having incoming schools play less conference games were simply a transitional thing and not permanent I think I could get behind it.

No doubt.

I have no idea if there's any truth to the rumor, but what if the whole ruse is a trial balloon to see what might fly? Wouldn't THAT be funny...

 

[matcar]

There's simply too much wrong with the information in that article to take it too seriously.

1. It was already mentioned, but the Big Ten doesn't have the kind of power to guarantee an extra BCS slot.
2. 7 conference games plus 6 OOC games equals 13 games. The Big Ten does not have the power to authorize a 13th game if it doesn't fit into the exemptions laid down in the NCAA bylaws.
3. The Big Ten is not going through this whole mess and not end up with a conference championship game. The idea that this is all about money, and they're going to pass up the money generated by a CCG sounds ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as a 7-0 team being ok with losing a championship to an 8-0 team because they were allowed to play an extra home game every other year.

This part isn't correct. Even Delany has said that a conf champ game isn't the end all/be all.

 

[bassbuckeye07]

I know there are a ton of these posted but I like the looks of this....

Big 16 East
Ohio State
Penn State
Michigan St
N Western
Purdue
Indiana
Michigan
Illini
Big 16 West
Minnisota
Iowa
ND
Texas
Mizzou
Wiscy
Nebraska
Texas AtM

 

[BigJim]

There's simply too much wrong with the information in that article to take it too seriously.

1. It was already mentioned, but the Big Ten doesn't have the kind of power to guarantee an extra BCS slot.
2. 7 conference games plus 6 OOC games equals 13 games. The Big Ten does not have the power to authorize a 13th game if it doesn't fit into the exemptions laid down in the NCAA bylaws.
3. The Big Ten is not going through this whole mess and not end up with a conference championship game. The idea that this is all about money, and they're going to pass up the money generated by a CCG sounds ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as a 7-0 team being ok with losing a championship to an 8-0 team because they were allowed to play an extra home game every other year.

This part isn't correct. Even Delany has said that a conf champ game isn't the end all/be all.

Also, I didn't see #1 mentioned. I saw it being talked about how the B10 would set the tie-breakers to determine who it's one guaranteed slot was, but nothing about the B10 now having 2 guaranteed BCS slots.

 

[BrowardBuck]

I think people have read way too much in the quote that was attributed to Delaney about not doing this for a conference championship game. People have focused on the first part of the quote and not the entire quote. He did say that the expansion was not about adding a CCG. But he went on to clarify that it wasn't a driving force for the expansion. No where did he say that there wouldn't be a CCG and if they expand, there will be a CCG. Whether that happens from the outset or not is up for debate, but I can't see a scenario where they don't have one, considering everyone wants it...players, coaches, AD's, etc. and with the expanded conference, it affords them the opportunity to do it.

This part isn't correct. Even Delany has said that a conf champ game isn't the end all/be all.

 

[ochre]

But, from the Notre Dame standpoint, I think you'd like to have at least one protected conference rivalry against a program of similar caliber to your own.

So, like, Minnesota and/or Northwestern?

 

[BrowardBuck]

:highfive:

So, like, Minnesota and/or Northwestern?

 

[IronBuckI]

Also, I didn't see #1 mentioned. I saw it being talked about how the B10 would set the tie-breakers to determine who it's one guaranteed slot was, but nothing about the B10 now having 2 guaranteed BCS slots.

You're right. I read it too fast and didn't comprehend what it whas actually saying. What it says is a little more ridiculous than guaranteeing an extra slot.

They're also looking at potentially giving a automatic BCS slot for a 7-0 ND/Texas Big Ten team that loses the conference championship to an 8-0 team as a carrot, where the 8-0 team could still get the at-large but isn't guaranteed.

They're actually trying to give the guaranteed game to the 7-0 conference runner-up in the hopes that an 8-0 conference champion could also get an at-large, but the conference champion would not have a guaranteed BCS bid.

 

[cincibuck]

Make Way for the Maroon!​

"We're coming back, to football and for the first time since 1939, to the Big Ten Athletic Conference." With those words University of Chicago President Robert J. Zimmer announced the return of football to the school. We'll be playing our games at Soldier Field until completion of the new, state of the art, 70,000 seat Amos Alonzo Stagg Stadium and Enrico Fermi Field can be built. We'll also be building Jay Berwanger Practice facility next door. A beaming Big Ten commissioner, Jim Delany stood next to Zimmer as the team and stadium were introduced to a stunned Second City press corps. "Since our last Big Ten game was an 83 to nothing hammering by Michigan, we will pay a tribute to the Wolverines by opening with Appalachian State on September 8, 2012 and resume Big Ten conference play against Iowa two weeks later," added Zimmer.

 

[FCollinsBuckeye]

I support this notion.

 

[kinch]

I would love to see University of Chicago back, and yay for there no longer being an infuriatingly absent last page to the thread. . .

I do find the current rumors compelling, if none before them. It seems to have been, according to the Spartan reporter, vetted three times over. We'll see. . .

 

[TGfan06]

I would love to see University of Chicago back .

They are already in the "academic Big 10" or the Committee on Institutional Cooperation. Although their football program could be a step up from Syracuse I guess