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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
    313
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Muck;1659567; said:
Wouldn't the Gators fight tooth & nail hard to keep FSU (and/or Miami) out of the SEC. Adding either team wouldn't exactly do them any favors.
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Hell, FSU we play anyway, so having it as a conference game makes sense to me. We were their sponsor the last time they were invited and refused unless we agreed that they did not have to play Bama and Aurburn in the same year. True story. Plus, if they never win another conference title again since joining us, it will denigrate their ACC success and MNCs, so I'm all for that. :biggrin: Plus, they are geographically and culturally more similar to us than Da U. They fit nowhere. Those asshats would NEVER get an invite. Not an SEC school.

If we can get Oklahoma to do the "SEC" cheer we might consider it. :p

Seriously, Oklahoma is as insanely football crazy as we are, and would fit in some monster southern conference. FSU would be fine. I like Louisville for reasons expressed. I'd add Va Tech for the fourth.

Muck;1659567; said:
I'm not so sure it's really about USC. They came close to snagging Texas (& Colorado) right before the formation of the Big 12.
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Gatorubet;1659781; said:
Da U. They fit nowhere. Those asshats would NEVER get an invite. Not an SEC school.
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While I can't help but find myself agreeing with the former statement, the latter leaves me puzzled. Not an SEC school? The school that found a way to play the Pell Grant game so scholarship football players would have the necessary means...necessary means to hang out at the same nightclub where Tony Montana was rollin'. The U is so much an SEC school. In fact, I think it is so much Theee Uber SEC school that real SEC schools shrink in fear of having to compete against it on a level (if by level we mean the angled architecture of a villain's lair in the original Batman television series) field of play.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1659788; said:
While I can't help but find myself agreeing with the former statement, the latter leaves me puzzled. Not an SEC school? The school that found a way to play the Pell Grant game so scholarship football players would have the necessary means...necessary means to hang out at the same nightclub where Tony Montana was rollin'. The U is so much an SEC school. In fact, I think it is so much Theee Uber SEC school that real SEC schools shrink in fear of having to compete against it on a level (if by level we mean the angled architecture of a villain's lair in the original Batman television series) field of play.
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You've officially shown that you know nothing about the SEC if you think those combat fatigue wearing asshats are culturally a fit with the SEC schools. No Grove. Volunteer Navy, WLOCP, Iron Bowl, Tiger Stadium, We Are The Boys, Toomers Corner...Chicken Curse :p...

That punk ass small, private, Yankee (species NewYorkus Annoyus) filled school with no campus tradition, no actual stadium other than a borrowed NFL one, which they can't sell out, much less marginally fill, even for conference games, and a fanbase that is - as we say - a mile wide and an inch deep...

ORD, they are NOT an SEC school. I mean, nice jab. It's what you do. (It's what I do :p) But really, if they are a good SEC fit, then West Virgina is a good Big-10 fit. And trust me...they aren't.
 
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zwem;1659801; said:
Pittsburgh and ND are the only two that really make sense.
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I dont understand why people keep saying this...

Someone make an arguement to me as to WHY pitt makes any sense at all... they are average at football and good at basketball, they dont add a new state or market, they would seem to detract from recruiting for the other big10 schools, and are their academics really on par either? the only positive i see for them is basketball and thats just not enough.

as for ND, everyone wants to say texas isnt a cultural fit, ND isnt a cultural fit. sure you take them due to their media pull and tradition but academics and culture do not fit.
 
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zwem;1659801; said:
Pittsburgh and ND are the only two that really make sense.
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Actually, what makes sense if they absolutely have to expand is either a 14 or 16 team league, with Texas, aTm/Nebraska/Mizzou and Rutgers/Syracuse joining.

The only way Pitt joins the Big Ten is if they are the 15th or 16th team in.

at this point I think the Big Ten would likely tell Ntre Ame to pound sand and they certainly would if they landed Texas.

Looking at it this way, I think if Texas attempts to go to the Big Ten it will be a package deal with aTm. Something tells me that will be the price for the texas legislature. So that puts you at 13 which obviously isn't the best of situations, so there will need to be at least a 14th team from a pool of teams like Nebraska, Mizzou, Syracuse, Rutgers, etc.

Out of that pool, and unless Oklahoma is somehow in that pool which would be attractive to both Texas and aTm, the pick "should be" Nebraska if they're willing.
 
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The Texas Longhorns to the Big Ten isn't a crazy idea


BY DREW SHARP
FREE PRESS COLUMNIST

The mistake made in impulsively dismissing the possibility -- longshot though it may be -- of the Big Ten luring Texas into its lair is looking at college conference expansion through archaic geographic parameters. Maximizing earning potential knows no borders. This is the equivalent of college football going global.
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The Texas Longhorns to the Big Ten isn't a crazy idea | freep.com | Detroit Free Press
 
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So it's really a money/market thing... It still surprises me that Texas must be interested to bring about so many media blurbs. With the Dallas - Houston TV market added to the Chicago - Michigan - Ohio - Western Pa. market that's a huge chunk of the college TV market. I guess my question would be how long could the Big 10 sustain 4 major majors. With Texas in, Ohio State would be hard pressed to maintain football hegemony, a situation similar to what Penn State discovered when they left the Big East.
 
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cincibuck;1659856; said:
So it's really a money/market thing... It still surprises me that Texas must be interested to bring about so many media blurbs. With the Dallas - Houston TV market added to the Chicago - Michigan - Ohio - Western Pa. market that's a huge chunk of the college TV market. I guess my question would be how long could the Big 10 sustain 4 major majors. With Texas in, Ohio State would be hard pressed to maintain football hegemony, a situation similar to what Penn State discovered when they left the Big East.
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It would certainly seem to but a damper on anymore 6 in a row type streaks but I certainly don't think they would take over to the point we end up like PSU from 1995 to 2005.

It could just as easily be argued they would have more trouble adjusting to a conference that puts more emphasis on defense than the B10 would have trouble adjusting to their wide open passing style.
 
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cincibuck;1659856; said:
So it's really a money/market thing... It still surprises me that Texas must be interested to bring about so many media blurbs. With the Dallas - Houston TV market added to the Chicago - Michigan - Ohio - Western Pa. market that's a huge chunk of the college TV market. I guess my question would be how long could the Big 10 sustain 4 major majors. With Texas in, Ohio State would be hard pressed to maintain football hegemony, a situation similar to what Penn State discovered when they left the Big East.
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Penn State was in the Big East? News to me.
 
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Buckeye Maniac;1659880; said:
Penn State was in the Big East? News to me.
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Syracuse, Rutgers, Pitt, Maryland and I can't remember who else were a part of PSU's regular schedule. In essence the hub of what became the Big East. (well obviously not Maryland) I frankly can't remember if they formed a conference or if they simply scheduled out a sense of history.
 
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cincibuck;1659882; said:
Syracuse, Rutgers, Pitt, Maryland and I can't remember who else were a part of PSU's regular schedule. In essence the hub of what became the Big East. (well obviously not Maryland) I frankly can't remember if they formed a conference or if they simply scheduled out a sense of history.
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State Penn was never in the Big East.
 
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