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Big 12 CCG: Mizzou 21, Oklahoma 62 (Final)

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billmac91;1349184; said:
i think I like UF against the Sooners too, but we're talking about a UF defense that starts:

a freshman CB (Jenkins)
a sophmore CB (Haden)
a sophmore safety (Black)
a sophmore safety (Wright)

and this secondary, in all fairness, has not faced a good passing offense all season.

I think some are completly overestimating the UF defense, that faced a HORRIBLE year in SEC quarterbacks.
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Bill, the DL is the place you ought to look. When high powered offenses fall on their face, it's usually because the front seven has disrupted the rhythm. That said, Wright, Black, Haden and Jenkins are all very talented players. Don't forget that UF also started some very young DBs against us in '06 as well.

Back to the thread.
 
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ysubuck said:
I think Sam Bradford is winning himself the Hypesman tonight.
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I don't know.

All the Heisman voters that watched the SEC Champ game heard the Danielson BJ being given to Tebow's play.

ABC hasn't done nearly the hyping of Bradford's play tonight. They've given him glowing remarks, but not every single second of the broadcast.

The voters should be able to make their own decisions, but I have to believe that the commentating may influence who they vote for. Plus, this one's a blowout. Not really padding the stats and even if he does, hardly anyone is watching.
 
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Best Buckeye;1349185; said:
let's see , everyone who thinks these predictions are correct , raise your hand.
Now can we get this thread back to the game at hand?
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Raising my hand (and reminding doubters in about 35 days). :wink2:

Okay, back to the game at hand. OU leads one of the worst defensive teams in the nation by 31 points in the 3rd quarter. The suspense is killing me. :sleep1:
 
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Jake;1349175; said:
Missouri is 116th in the NCAA in pass defense, allowing 396 yards per game.
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OU has 279 in the 3rd quarter. Just another day at the office for the Tigers.

It's not like the Sooners are exposing some great pass defense tonight. Everybody throws at will on Mizzou.
 
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Tresselbeliever;1349194; said:
Bill, the DL is the place you ought to look. When high powered offenses fall on their face, it's usually because the front seven has disrupted the rhythm. That said, Wright, Black, Haden and Jenkins are all very talented players. Don't forget that UF also started some very young DBs against us in '06 as well.

Back to the thread.
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Could prove to be true...but you're also talking about an offensive line that has two sure fire first round picks in Duke Robinson and Loadholt.

Add to that, many of Oklahoma's throws are short intermediate throws.

OU's receivers average the most YAC of any team in the country.

Will be interesting to see what happens with Demarco Murray, but he and Chris Brown are a terrific combination.

But back to UF and their heralded defense, which has played well, I can't take anything away from them.....their most recent opponents:

John Parker Wilson (Bama)...good year, but not great. Great WR in Julio Jones.
Christian Ponder (FSU)....game ruined due to rain. Couldn't throw football or attack outside when breaks can't be made by WR's
The Citadel....enough said
South Carolina....Smelley is smelly, and Garcia hasn't show anything
Vanderbilt...enough said
Georgia....good showing there. Although many would say Stafford is very overrated.
Kentucky.....no offense to the Hartline family...but not a test
LSU....joke of a situation until they found Jeffereson late in the year
Arkansas...Casey Dick sucks.
Ole Miss...Jevean Snead had a great day.
Tennessee...ouch
Miami (FL)....bad receivers, Marve very inconsistent
Hawaii...not Colt Brennan

I just don't think anyone can make the claim Sam Bradford is fucked. UF hasn't really proven it against a great offense yet. Some may claim Georgia, but Stafford has underperformed horribly this year.

Over the last 5 weeks, they haven't faced anything resembling the OU offense.

By the way...how many defenses held Texas Tech to under 24 points, and how many teams took a shit all over Missouri's offense?

Again, I think UF probably wins, b/c Tebow is a beast....but it is silly to rule OU out.

I think the championship has great potential to show UF's defense as fraudulent, and OU's defense as underrated.
 
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billmac91;1349214; said:
Could prove to be true...but you're also talking about an offensive line that has two sure fire first round picks in Duke Robinson and Loadholt.

Add to that, many of Oklahoma's throws are short intermediate throws.

OU's receivers average the most YAC of any team in the country.

Will be interesting to see what happens with Demarco Murray, but he and Chris Brown are a terrific combination.

But back to UF and their heralded defense, which has played well, I can't take anything away from them.....their most recent opponents:

John Parker Wilson (Bama)...good year, but not great. Great WR in Julio Jones.
Christian Ponder (FSU)....game ruined due to rain. Couldn't throw football or attack outside when breaks can't be made by WR's
The Citadel....enough said
South Carolina....Smelley is smelly, and Garcia hasn't show anything
Vanderbilt...enough said
Georgia....good showing there. Although many would say Stafford is very overrated.
Kentucky.....no offense to the Hartline family...but not a test
LSU....joke of a situation until they found Jeffereson late in the year
Arkansas...Casey Dick sucks.
Ole Miss...Jevean Snead had a great day.
Tennessee...ouch
Miami (FL)....bad receivers, Marve very inconsistent
Hawaii...not Colt Brennan

I just don't think anyone can make the claim Sam Bradford is fucked. UF hasn't really proven it against a great offense yet. Some may claim Georgia, but Stafford has underperformed horribly this year.

Over the last 5 weeks, they haven't faced anything resembling the OU offense.

By the way...how many defenses held Texas Tech to under 24 points, and how many teams took a shit all over Missouri's offense?

Again, I think UF probably wins, b/c Tebow is a beast....but it is silly to rule OU out.

I think the championship has great potential to show UF's defense as fraudulent, and OU's defense as underrated.
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Good post..I agree.. There is no certain anything with either one of these teams. Mizz's offense would have been referred to as "stacked" if you would have asked a lot of people...Look at them now. .Sure they aren't fl,but there is no way to simulate a Tim Tebow type situation..There are no other Tebow's.
 
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billmac91;1349217; said:
BTW,

Chase Daniel cost himself 2-3 rounds by not coming out last year. He would not have been drafted that high anyways, but this year has killed any aura around his play.
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Chase Daniel = Colt Brennan = Timmy Chang = Texas Tech QBs

When it comes to the NFL, nothing to see here...move along.

Don't be surprised when Sam Bradford = Jason White, too. Anybody remember him?
 
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