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See, I prefer my first name, since it's Richard, and my parents owned a house on Wacker Dr when I was born.
Dick Wacker.
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JXC
17-4 since 2001
Big 10 is strong this year...but in two of the marquee games of the marquee teams...Ohio State vs. Texas and Michigan vs. Notre Dame...the Big 10 lost. Penn State's year and Ohio State's second half have brought the level of top teams back up in the Big 10. But for the most part, the Big 10 was nothing special this year. It may be the strongest conference from top to bottom out there...but I think the Big 10 still didn't play as well as it could have this year.
Purdue, Minnesota, Iowa and Michigan all had pretty dissapointing seasons...Indiana could have done a lot more, but it didn't. Illinois was a joke. Northwestern and Penn State seem to only be the two big surprises in the Big 10. I'd say Ohio State finished just about where they were expected to. Wisconsin did well too, but people aren't really talking about them. But the fact that teams like Purdue, Iowa and Michigan were supposed to be excellent this year, and weren't, makes people think the Big 10 was soft. A team like Northwestern doing what they did does nothing to make the Big 10 look better...even though it should. I think the bowl games will show us a lot about Big 10 football.
Purdue, Minnesota, Iowa and Michigan all had pretty dissapointing seasons...Indiana could have done a lot more, but it didn't. Illinois was a joke. Northwestern and Penn State seem to only be the two big surprises in the Big 10. I'd say Ohio State finished just about where they were expected to. Wisconsin did well too, but people aren't really talking about them. But the fact that teams like Purdue, Iowa and Michigan were supposed to be excellent this year, and weren't, makes people think the Big 10 was soft. A team like Northwestern doing what they did does nothing to make the Big 10 look better...even though it should. I think the bowl games will show us a lot about Big 10 football.
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You know, that Florida speed that Miami showed us in the Fiesta Bowl a few years back. I cant remember what happened in that game, but it wasnt pretty at all.
Edit: I keynt speel et awl
I didn't even bother watching that game since all the writers assured me that OSU was going to lose by 4 TD's. How much did we end up losing by?
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cincibuck
You kids stay off my lawn!
Anyone remember an e-mail rant about "southern football versus northern football?" I must have received it a dozen times from southern friends. Among its many witless observations: "southern football = stadiums packed with 90,000 fans vs northern football = stadiums half empty." The rest of the examples were equally devoid of the thought process. Obviously the author had never bothered to notice that only Tennessee plays in front of 100,000 fans on a regular basis, whereas Ohio State, Penn State and Michigan do so.
The South, still smarting from Buckeye Bill Sherman's march from Atlanta to the Sea, has long held a belief in superiority of Southern football over Northern football. Segregation kept them from playing Northern teams, so it was impossible to reach any conclusions about relative strength. (In the mid fifties Syracuse had to leave Jim Brown at home to play in the Cotton Bowl) It wasn't until USC, led by black players, came to Tuscaloosa and kicked a Bear Bryant team from one end of the field to the other, that the South decided they needed to integrate their universities.
Through all of that I have heard the following from Southern fans, "You guys aren't as fast," "you don't hit as hard," "it doesn't matter as much to northern teams," "you don't care as much." I've heard it all. OSU's bowl/OOC record versus SEC teams doesn't help.
It's useless to point out to them that the bowl games are home games for their teams, or to suggest that they try and play "hockey on grass" in the 'Shoe in late November. The SEC is a tough conference and the number of players they send on to the NFL seems to support that.
But my perception of the average Southern fan is that they seem to include the Big 12 and the ACC as co-equals. There I have problems. The Big 12 is down right now. I don't believe for one minute that Nebraska, Oklahoma and Colorado will remain as weak as they now are. The ACC is still a basketball conference. Florida State will strengthen the football side... don't know about Miami... that's a program that can collapse in a New York minute with the loss of a coach. But the quality of ACC football has improved. It took a horrid call for an IVLloyd Michigan team to beat UVA a few years back (a call IVLloyd didn't bother to talk about in the post game interview) and NCSU gave OSU fits two years in a row.
Still, those are isolated games. I don't believe there's a team in the ACC that could win a Big 10 Championship any more frequently than a Purdue or Minnesota. IMO only Florida State has the alum/business support to sustain a top level Big 10 program.
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WestEnd
look ma no shoelaces, and I'm down with the KIIING
Carefull there ... for as competetive as the big ten has been this year, the level of play from the defenses has been pretty bad, the bucks and PSU aside. I think the reason you won all that money in 02 was because there were some solid defensive teams.
I look at this year as a bizzaro year in college football. The SEC is much stronger defensively while tackling in the big ten has definately gone south. (yeah, I'm pretty happy with that pun right there.)
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I really wish sparty had made the bowl game. I think they would have obliterate Wisky, Northwestern are gonna blow some teams away. Michigan will probably lose. Iowa will be a tough team to beat. Minny's average opponent better pray they can stop their unbelievable rushing attack (after their 3rd stringer ran for 200, I'm convinced they could help Lydell run for 150).
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sandgk
Watson, Crick & A Twist
In terms of Strength of Schedule Penn State, Ohio State and a certain team up north have little to be ashamed about this year. And, though the schedule strength bit M*ch*g*n big time (especially in the last game 
) it does suggest to me that they can hang tough in their Bowl Game - which looks to be the Alamo. It is also good that the 2 stoutest defenses in the Big 10 get to lead the charge in premier post-season play. This should help our showing in what will be tough games, though games for which the respective coaching staffs will have plenty of time to prepare.
Like jwins suggests the remainder of the likely Bowl participants are not shabby.
Anyway - just for shits and giggles here is what collegefootballpoll magazine projected - at the beginning of the season - for the BCS bowls -
Well they look like they might have got one correct - every blind pig ....
) it does suggest to me that they can hang tough in their Bowl Game - which looks to be the Alamo. It is also good that the 2 stoutest defenses in the Big 10 get to lead the charge in premier post-season play. This should help our showing in what will be tough games, though games for which the respective coaching staffs will have plenty of time to prepare.Like jwins suggests the remainder of the likely Bowl participants are not shabby.
Anyway - just for shits and giggles here is what collegefootballpoll magazine projected - at the beginning of the season - for the BCS bowls -
Computer Matches USC-Texas For Title Game
[SIZE=-1]If the Congrove Computer Rankings prove to be anywhere near correct, 2005 will not be without controversy.
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Well they look like they might have got one correct - every blind pig ....
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