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Beanie, Baiting & Decades, oh my!

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bdaythug;1271116; said:
ban? why would i getted banned for a response? I am a fan of football, not just the big ten or penn state. i see running backs every year that are as good as beanie, so what.
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You see players as good as BEANIE , every year? You must be a recruiter ANALYST for PSU.:biggrin:
Why can't PSU dominate Penn in recruiting the top kids in-state?Its been going on for years, Michigan use to be the king of stealing them but, now OSU and PITT took over.
 
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OregonBuckeye;1270890; said:
Do you seriously feel that way?

Ask Lloyd Carr what he thinks of Beanie. Ask Archie Griffin. Ask the hundreds of poor souls on the wrong side of his stiff arms.
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There's quite a bit of debate on osu boards whether MoC or Beanie was better, that makes the "once in a decade RB' claim iffy. And he certainly isn't a 'once in a decade player' with Troy Smith not only in his decade, but playing with him.
akronbuck;1271135; said:
You see players as good as BEANIE , every year?
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McFadden (Stewart? Mendenhall? certainly in the discussion)
Peterson, Lynch
Bush, Maroney
Benson, Gore
Steven Jackson
McGahee, Larry Johnson

Yeah, I'd say there are players about as good as beanie every year.
You must be a recruiter ANALYST for PSU.
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Yeah, that didn't make any sense, but good try.
Why can't PSU dominate Penn in recruiting the top kids in-state?Its been going on for years, Michigan use to be the king of stealing them but, now OSU and PITT took over.
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Another senseless "dig" with no relation to what he's talking about.
 
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As far as Beanie goes, he's a solid All-American, All-Big Ten Heisman contender at tailback. Forgetting stats for a bit, Ohio State generally has a player in that skill category about every 5-7 years. Clarrett, George, Smith, Byars, Griffin, and arguably Pittman all have fit that bill within the last generation.

Wells comfortably belongs on that list, but I wouldn't put him first.

IMO, the greatest college back of the last 30 years or so overall would either be Earl Campbell or Herschel Walker.

Still, in terms of potential, it's hard to think of a college QB/TB combination that is quite as potent as Beanie/Pryor. Smith/Pittman is the closet thing we've had.
 
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mmm, coulda been Smith/Clarett. They were freshmen together. troy red shirted, but he was on the sidelines of the NC game. In the ABC dvd you see him hugging Mo C after a great play (maybe the interception take back?)


Troy still wouldn't have played until 04 because CK was still there in 03 but that coulda been a great tandem...
 
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BrutusBobcat;1271171; said:
As far as Beanie goes, he's a solid All-American, All-Big Ten Heisman contender at tailback. Forgetting stats for a bit, Ohio State generally has a player in that skill category about every 5-7 years. Clarrett, George, Smith, Byars, Griffin, and arguably Pittman all have fit that bill within the last generation.

Wells comfortably belongs on that list, but I wouldn't put him first.

IMO, the greatest college back of the last 30 years or so overall would either be Earl Campbell or Herschel Walker.

Still, in terms of potential, it's hard to think of a college QB/TB combination that is quite as potent as Beanie/Pryor. Smith/Pittman is the closet thing we've had.
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That's fine, but I just think that Wells is more gifted and has more potential than some of those that you listed.

Also, how is Snow considered better than Emmit Smith, even before injuries? That seems far fetched.
 
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IMO Pryor w/wo Wells ain't going nowhere that special if the O-line doesn't get a cranial - rectumectomy; a point driven home when watching USC. The Trojan O-line gave Sanchez, a relatively immobile QB, all the time he needed, gave receivers time to get open, pushed the down linemen back into the Buckeye LBs, making the running game all the more effective.

I don't believe there was that much difference between the two teams at the skill positions, but there was a huge difference up front.

IMO we won't find out if the addition of Wells makes that much difference until October 4th and October 25th.

Finally, anyone who saw Byars before the foot injury saw the finest running back ever to wear scarlet and gray.
 
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cincibuck;1271384; said:
IMO Pryor w/wo Wells ain't going nowhere that special if the O-line doesn't get a cranial - rectumectomy; a point driven home when watching USC. The Trojan O-line gave Sanchez, a relatively immobile QB, all the time he needed, gave receivers time to get open, pushed the down linemen back into the Buckeye LBs, making the running game all the more effective.

I don't believe there was that much difference between the two teams at the skill positions, but there was a huge difference up front.

IMO we won't find out if the addition of Wells makes that much difference until October 4th and October 25th.

Finally, anyone who saw Byars before the foot injury saw the finest running back ever to wear scarlet and gray.
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Better than Archie? Wow. I did see him then, but 2 Heismans and 31 straight 100 yard games is hard to top.
 
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OregonBuckeye;1271423; said:
Who is a "once in a decade" player then? Judging by your post, there aren't any because there are always "similar" players.
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imo, im not sure if there are any more these days, since there are so many great athletes out there, but if i had to say, it'd be Reggie Bush or Vince Young.
 
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1926Buckeyes;1271195; said:
That's fine, but I just think that Wells is more gifted and has more potential than some of those that you listed.

Also, how is Snow considered better than Emmit Smith, even before injuries? That seems far fetched.
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Same here. Robert Smith was good not great at OSU.Why can't people remember he was ok in the NFL at 200 then became, a star playing at 225

No mention of Raymont Harris, odd
 
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bdaythug;1271427; said:
imo, im not sure if there are any more these days, since there are so many great athletes out there, but if i had to say, it'd be Reggie Bush or Vince Young.
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Vince Young would be mine by far just after that title game against USC that HE WON which, was the best game that I've ever seen.
 
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