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BCS predictions/discussion/Knock Em' Off

MondayAMGenius;991316; said:
I'll give you Oregon and LSU, but goggles or no goggles I'm not so hot on the big 12 teams.

I agree with you there and honestly, I'd rather play LSU than Oregon. Without my goggles on, I'd say we're the third best team in the country and would definitely give LSU the game of their lives.

To be honest, I'm not quite sold on anyone besides Oregon, but then again if you can shut down Dennis Dixon, then you shut down the Ducks.

Either way, I'm still VERY proud to be a Buckeye fan and I'm VERY proud of our players. :oh:
 
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Alright so I worked this up on another site, and thought I'd share it with you all in this thread, it's my take on what every team in the top 9 needs to happen for them to be able to get to New Orleans:

Neither Kansas or Hawaii will win out. If these teams do it will be the end of college football as we know it. This year has been absolutely ridiculous they way it's panned out, and I for one am not counting anyone in the top 9 out from still getting a shot at the National Championship. There are too many important games still left to be played to think that LSU and Oregon is a done deal:

#1 LSU
11/17 @ Ole Miss
11/23 Arkansas
SEC Championship vs. probably Georgia

*Arkansas and the SEC Championship vs. the Bulldogs are still two pretty tough roadblocks left for LSU, and I'm still not convinced that LSU's defense is the best out there yet, as they have given up roughly 26 points per game in their previous 5 games. It will be interesting how they handle McFadden (a heisman favorite) and the talented freshman Knowshon Moreno of Georgia if they were to play the Bulldogs for the SEC Championship. There's a good chance the Tigers win out, however, just ask them that question again back on 10/13 when they became the first #1 team to stumble this year. Will they be prone to doing it again now that they're back on top of college football?

#2 Oregon
11/15 @ Arizona
11/24 @ UCLA
12/01 Oregon State

*Nothing too difficult left for the Ducks, as it seems they have the easiest road left to New Orleans, however, I think we should all be well aware by now that upsets are just around the corner and that trip to Pasadena could spell trouble, but if it doesn't then the Beavers might have something to say about Oregon's post season game location... like perhaps just a return trip to Pasadena instead of a trip to the Big Easy. Also, UCLA has been known as the Jekyl and Hyde team of the Pac 10 as they've managed to defeat California and also give Notre Dame they're only win of the season.

#3 Oklahoma

11/17 @ Texas Tech
11/24 Oklahoma State
Big 12 Championship vs. Kansas/Missouri

*Pretty dangerous road ahead still for the young Sooners who fell victim of the upset bug earlier this year to lowly Colorado, but I could definitely seem them dropping the game in Lubbock or possibly even their rivalry game to Okie State, but I definitely see the Big 12 teams possibly eliminating each other from contention for the National Championship. Explanation for that follows below.

#4 Kansas

11/17 Iowa State
11/24 Missouri
Big 12 Championship vs. Oklahoma

*Rough schedule left for the surprising Jayhawks, and I tend to believe their magical season ends here. Iowa State is a probable to undoubted win as the 3-8 Cyclones have pretty much rolled over and died against every opponent they've faced this season, but then again they did beat Colorado who stunned mighty Oklahoma earlier this year, so yes theres a chance, but I for one believed Oklahoma State stood a better chance at upsetting Kansas than does Iowa State. However, Missouri is a probable loss for Kansas, so that would eliminate them from contention with 1 loss, as the voters did not even look too kindly enough upon them in this weeks standings as they kept them idle at #4 and moved LSU, Oregon, and Oklahoma ahead of them. Also if they were to somehow remain unscathed at 12-0 going into the Big 12 Championship, I'm rather positive they would lose to Oklahoma.

#5 West Virginia

11/17 @ #22 Cincinnati
11/24 #24 Connecticut
12/01 Pittsburgh

*Two troublesome road games against top 25 teams probably spells disaster for the injury plagued Moutaineers. Cincinnati is likely the team to beat West Virginia, however, all 3 could potentially pull the upset. UConn is having quite the year themselves if not at the expense of the blindest (word?) referee of all time, but none the less are a 2 loss team and host the Mountaineers at their place. Finally, Pittsburgh isn't quite the greatest team left on their schedule, however, they did pull the upset on Cincinnati earlier in the year.

#6 Missouri

11/17 @ Kansas State
11/24 @ #4 Kansas
Big 12 Championship vs. Oklahoma

*Just like they're Big 12 counterparts, Kansas and Oklahoma, Missouri has a rough path to follow to New Orleans. Also, just like Oregon they must face the Jekyl and Hyde team of their conference, Kansas State in Manhattan, Kansas. The Wildcats may not seem like a worthy opponent as they are coming off an embarrassing 31-73 loss to the troubled Cornhuskers, but they still pulled off the upset earlier in the year against the then #7 ranked Texas Longhorns in Austin! So if Kansas State is not enough for Missouri to handle, then maybe the surprising Jayhawks have some magical spells left in them that they could conjure up to possibly upset the Tigers. However, in all likelihood, the Big 12 Championship vs. the Sooners, who already beat the Tigers this year in Norman, is the place where Missouri will suffer its crushing second loss and eliminate them from any title hopes this year.

#7 Ohio State

11/17 @ #21 Michigan

*While the Buckeyes are being counted out the most at being able to still reach New Orleans, they might be the team that benefits the most from the possible slip-ups higher up in the rankings. As the Buckeyes have already concluded 90% of their schedule, all that remains for them is the game of all rivalries, the Ohio State vs. Michigan battle in Ann Arbor. The Wolverines have undoubtedly had the biggest letdown this season as they were easily one of the early favorites for one of the two spots in the National Championship game this year. Yet, after crushing back-to-back defeats at the hands of Appalachian State and Oregon in the Big House to begin their season, Michigan never really looked the same. On top of the two early losses, Michigan has also landed their third loss last week against Wisconsin, so morale isn't too high for the Wolverines. Additionally the upset bug hasn't been the only thing bothering Michigan this year, as they have also been bitten by the injury bug quite alot this season. Key players Chad Henne, Mike Hart, and Mario Manningham have all suffered injuries this year, most notably Henne, which has resulted in the Wovlerines having to rely on an inexperienced freshman quarterback to carry them to the finish line this season. Can Henne/Hart stop the Buckeyes on 11/17 and save the Michigan program from suffering it's 4th loss of the season and they're 4th career loss to the Buckeyes?

#8 Georgia

11/17 #23 Kentucky
11/24 @ Georgia Tech
SEC Championship vs. LSU

*While the Bulldogs remain the only 2 loss team still in contention for a birth in the National Championship game, they would need pretty much every scenario above to happen for them to even have a shot. However, they do control their own destiny and strength of schedule might just be enough for them to leap frog certain teams ranked higher than them. Yet, like everyone else they do have a bumpy road left in front of them, as Kentucky already notably defeated LSU earlier this year, and the Yellow Jackets have given the Bulldogs trouble lately. Georgia is 3-0 in the past 3 years against Georgia Tech, however they only have a combined 16 point margin of victory against them in those 3 games (15-12 in 2006, 14-7 in 2005, and 19-13 in 2004). Finally, they would still have to face the Tigers in the SEC Championship game if they were to win out.

#9 Arizona State

11/22 #11 USC
12/01 Arizona

*The Sun Devils escaped joining Boston College last night at being eliminated from National Title hopes as they barely escaped Pasadena with a 24-20 victory over the Bruins. However, they are still a 1 loss team, but they are staring 2 losses in the face when the Trojans come to Tempe in two Thursdays. Also, like Georgia they probably need every scenario above to occur for them to be able to jump into at least the #2 spot, because the Bulldogs with 2 losses are already deemed as the better team by the voters, but a win against USC might just be enough for their strength of schedule. However, the Wildcats of Arizona might just be the last team to pull an upset before this crazy regular season comes to an end.

Well my novel is over and hopefully the rest of this seasons games will be as entertaining as the 11 weeks that led up to this point have been.
 
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I think it is important for us all to remember that none of us really thought a national championship run was on this year. I am so proud of these Buckeyes. Beat TSUN, go to a BCS Bowl, after losing what we lost last year? Wow, that is really something. And, if the unbelievable happens and those teams above us knock each other off and we play for the NC, well, that really is just unbelievable.

This is still a great year for The Ohio State University Buckeyes!:oh:
 
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OWUBuckeye51;991396; said:
hey...are you a man? are you 40?
I AM! I'M A MAN, COME AT ME! I'M 40!!! You know a mother brought this to my attention the other day... a mother of CHILDREN!! :biggrin:

Lol good ol' Mike Gundy, that explosion will certainly be ranked up there for all time greatest post game interview explosions!!
 
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Steve19;991399; said:
I think it is important for us all to remember that none of us really thought a national championship run was on this year. I am so proud of these Buckeyes. Beat TSUN, go to a BCS Bowl, after losing what we lost last year? Wow, that is really something. And, if the unbelievable happens and those teams above us knock each other off and we play for the NC, well, that really is just unbelievable.

This is still a great year for The Ohio State University Buckeyes!:oh:

great posts Steve19 and MSJ2487...can't rep now as my laptop lacks the configuration for greenies...will do so from my home pc later...:biggrin:

God I hope we beat scUM...
 
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msj2487;991394; said:
Alright so I worked this up on another site, and thought I'd share it with you all in this thread, it's my take on what every team in the top 9 needs to happen for them to be able to get to New Orleans:

Neither Kansas or Hawaii will win out. If these teams do it will be the end of college football as we know it. This year has been absolutely ridiculous they way it's panned out, and I for one am not counting anyone in the top 9 out from still getting a shot at the National Championship. There are too many important games still left to be played to think that LSU and Oregon is a done deal:

#1 LSU
11/17 @ Ole Miss
11/23 Arkansas
SEC Championship vs. probably Georgia

*Arkansas and the SEC Championship vs. the Bulldogs are still two pretty tough roadblocks left for LSU, and I'm still not convinced that LSU's defense is the best out there yet, as they have given up roughly 26 points per game in their previous 5 games. It will be interesting how they handle McFadden (a heisman favorite) and the talented freshman Knowshon Moreno of Georgia if they were to play the Bulldogs for the SEC Championship. There's a good chance the Tigers win out, however, just ask them that question again back on 10/13 when they became the first #1 team to stumble this year. Will they be prone to doing it again now that they're back on top of college football?

#2 Oregon
11/15 @ Arizona
11/24 @ UCLA
12/01 Oregon State

*Nothing too difficult left for the Ducks, as it seems they have the easiest road left to New Orleans, however, I think we should all be well aware by now that upsets are just around the corner and that trip to Pasadena could spell trouble, but if it doesn't then the Beavers might have something to say about Oregon's post season game location... like perhaps just a return trip to Pasadena instead of a trip to the Big Easy. Also, UCLA has been known as the Jekyl and Hyde team of the Pac 10 as they've managed to defeat California and also give Notre Dame they're only win of the season.

#3 Oklahoma

11/17 @ Texas Tech
11/24 Oklahoma State
Big 12 Championship vs. Kansas/Missouri

*Pretty dangerous road ahead still for the young Sooners who fell victim of the upset bug earlier this year to lowly Colorado, but I could definitely seem them dropping the game in Lubbock or possibly even their rivalry game to Okie State, but I definitely see the Big 12 teams possibly eliminating each other from contention for the National Championship. Explanation for that follows below.

#4 Kansas

11/17 Iowa State
11/24 Missouri
Big 12 Championship vs. Oklahoma

*Rough schedule left for the surprising Jayhawks, and I tend to believe their magical season ends here. Iowa State is a probable to undoubted win as the 3-8 Cyclones have pretty much rolled over and died against every opponent they've faced this season, but then again they did beat Colorado who stunned mighty Oklahoma earlier this year, so yes theres a chance, but I for one believed Oklahoma State stood a better chance at upsetting Kansas than does Iowa State. However, Missouri is a probable loss for Kansas, so that would eliminate them from contention with 1 loss, as the voters did not even look too kindly enough upon them in this weeks standings as they kept them idle at #4 and moved LSU, Oregon, and Oklahoma ahead of them. Also if they were to somehow remain unscathed at 12-0 going into the Big 12 Championship, I'm rather positive they would lose to Oklahoma.

#5 West Virginia

11/17 @ #22 Cincinnati
11/24 @ #24 Connecticut
12/01 Pittsburgh

*Two troublesome road games against top 25 teams probably spells disaster for the injury plagued Moutaineers. Cincinnati is likely the team to beat West Virginia, however, all 3 could potentially pull the upset. UConn is having quite the year themselves if not at the expense of the blindest (word?) referee of all time, but none the less are a 2 loss team and host the Mountaineers at their place. Finally, Pittsburgh isn't quite the greatest team left on their schedule, however, they did pull the upset on Cincinnati earlier in the year.

#6 Missouri

11/17 @ Kansas State
11/24 @ #4 Kansas
Big 12 Championship vs. Oklahoma

*Just like they're Big 12 counterparts, Kansas and Oklahoma, Missouri has a rough path to follow to New Orleans. Also, just like Oregon they must face the Jekyl and Hyde team of their conference, Kansas State in Manhattan, Kansas. The Wildcats may not seem like a worthy opponent as they are coming off an embarrassing 31-73 loss to the troubled Cornhuskers, but they still pulled off the upset earlier in the year against the then #7 ranked Texas Longhorns in Austin! So if Kansas State is not enough for Missouri to handle, then maybe the surprising Jayhawks have some magical spells left in them that they could conjure up to possibly upset the Tigers. However, in all likelihood, the Big 12 Championship vs. the Sooners, who already beat the Tigers this year in Norman, is the place where Missouri will suffer its crushing second loss and eliminate them from any title hopes this year.

#7 Ohio State

11/17 @ #21 Michigan

*While the Buckeyes are being counted out the most at being able to still reach New Orleans, they might be the team that benefits the most from the possible slip-ups higher up in the rankings. As the Buckeyes have already concluded 90% of their schedule, all that remains for them is the game of all rivalries, the Ohio State vs. Michigan battle in Ann Arbor. The Wolverines have undoubtedly had the biggest letdown this season as they were easily one of the early favorites for one of the two spots in the National Championship game this year. Yet, after crushing back-to-back defeats at the hands of Appalachian State and Oregon in the Big House to begin their season, Michigan never really looked the same. On top of the two early losses, Michigan has also landed their third loss last week against Wisconsin, so morale isn't too high for the Wolverines. Additionally the upset bug hasn't been the only thing bothering Michigan this year, as they have also been bitten by the injury bug quite alot this season. Key players Chad Henne, Mike Hart, and Mario Manningham have all suffered injuries this year, most notably Henne, which has resulted in the Wovlerines having to rely on an inexperienced freshman quarterback to carry them to the finish line this season. Can Henne/Hart stop the Buckeyes on 11/17 and save the Michigan program from suffering it's 4th loss of the season and they're 4th career loss to the Buckeyes?

#8 Georgia

11/17 #23 Kentucky
11/24 @ Georgia Tech
SEC Championship vs. LSU

*While the Bulldogs remain the only 2 loss team still in contention for a birth in the National Championship game, they would need pretty much every scenario above to happen for them to even have a shot. However, they do control their own destiny and strength of schedule might just be enough for them to leap frog certain teams ranked higher than them. Yet, like everyone else they do have a bumpy road left in front of them, as Kentucky already notably defeated LSU earlier this year, and the Yellow Jackets have given the Bulldogs trouble lately. Georgia is 3-0 in the past 3 years against Georgia Tech, however they only have a combined 16 point margin of victory against them in those 3 games (15-12 in 2006, 14-7 in 2005, and 19-13 in 2004). Finally, they would still have to face the Tigers in the SEC Championship game if they were to win out.

#9 Arizona State

11/22 #11 USC
12/01 Arizona

*The Sun Devils escaped joining Boston College last night at being eliminated from National Title hopes as they barely escaped Pasadena with a 24-20 victory over the Bruins. However, they are still a 1 loss team, but they are staring 2 losses in the face when the Trojans come to Tempe in two Thursdays. Also, like Georgia they probably need every scenario above to occur for them to be able to jump into at least the #2 spot, because the Bulldogs with 2 losses are already deemed as the better team by the voters, but a win against USC might just be enough for their strength of schedule. However, the Wildcats of Arizona might just be the last team to pull an upset before this crazy regular season comes to an end.

Well my novel is over and hopefully the rest of this seasons games will be as entertaining as the 11 weeks that led up to this point have been.

Good summary. Couple of things:

-Every site I have seen their schedule posted, the WVU vs Uconn game is in Morgantown not in Conn.

-Also the Mizzou vs Kansas game is in KC so its technically a neutral field.

-Why does everyone keep saying LSU's most likely going to play UGA? Tennessee has to beat UK and Vandy iirc to wrap up the east. They stomped UGA head to head. Unless I missed something UT controls their own destiny for the SEC east, not UGA.
 
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This is the scenerio that I see that needs to happen for us to be #2 and going to the NC game.

1. LSU needs to loose the SEC Champ game.

2. I see Oregon winning out.

3. Oklahoma needs to lose one of the next 2 games (TT or Ok St). When they go to the Big 12 Champ game, they need to win that game.

4. The winner of the Kansas/Missouri game needs to loose in the Big 12 Champ game.

5. West Virginia needs to loose one more game.

HAHA I know it's a long shot, but there is a chance. All of this needs to happen + tOSU needs to kick the crap out of scUM.

:osu: :scum4: :oh:
 
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Jaxbuck;991442; said:
-Why does everyone keep saying LSU's most likely going to play UGA? Tennessee has to beat UK and Vandy iirc to wrap up the east. They stomped UGA head to head. Unless I missed something UT controls their own destiny for the SEC east, not UGA.

You're right, they do, but it's Fat Phil. I guarantee they lose at Kentucky.
 
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Jaxbuck;991442; said:
Good summary. Couple of things:

-Every site I have seen their schedule posted, the WVU vs Uconn game is in Morgantown not in Conn.

-Also the Mizzou vs Kansas game is in KC so its technically a neutral field.

-Why does everyone keep saying LSU's most likely going to play UGA? Tennessee has to beat UK and Vandy iirc to wrap up the east. They stomped UGA head to head. Unless I missed something UT controls their own destiny for the SEC east, not UGA.
My apologies I'll correct the location of the WVU/Uconn game. Also, regarding the SEC Championship game I believe Georgia will play for it for the same reason that OregonBuckeye mentioned above, because I think Tennessee will lose to Kentucky.
 
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Nordberg;991447; said:
This is the scenerio that I see that needs to happen for us to be #2 and going to the NC game.

1. LSU needs to loose the SEC Champ game.

2. I see Oregon winning out.

3. Oklahoma needs to lose one of the next 2 games (TT or Ok St). When they go to the Big 12 Champ game, they need to win that game.

4. The winner of the Kansas/Missouri game needs to loose in the Big 12 Champ game.

5. West Virginia needs to loose one more game.

HAHA I know it's a long shot, but there is a chance. All of this needs to happen + tOSU needs to kick the crap out of scUM.

:osu: :scum4: :oh:

Hmmm... Seeing it laid out like this gives me a tiny bit more optimism. Still a very long shot. Still a great season if we polish off scUM. Speaking of which, it's officially Michigan week.

GO BUCKS!!!:io:
 
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BCS: Knock Em' Off/It Ain't Over

Week 1 teams to cheer for:

Thursday Night:

U of Oregon @ The University of Arizona (+13)

U of A needs 2 wins to become bowl eligible and possibly save Mike Stoop's job. Last game beat UCLA at home by 7 making it back to back wins for the Cats. Lost to USC 20-13 earlier. QB Willie Tuitama has thrown for 3,145 yards so far (1st PAC 10, 8th NCAA). Our good friend Louis "Big Foot" Holmes on D.


Saturday:


West Virgina @ U of Cincinnati (+6 1/2)

UC comes in at 8-2 off of back to back wins vs South Florida and UConn. They still have a chance to win the Big East and head to a BCS game. A good run defense will present Slaton and Devine a challange.


Oklahoma @ Texas Tech (+9)

Here is a team that has dropped off the radar just about harder than anyone else. They have lost 3 out of their last 4. They're 4-1 at home, 7-4 overall and averaging well over 40 ppg. QB Graham Harrell is a tad outside of 5,000 yards passing this year. Expect a shoot out in Lubbock.

Iowa State (+25 1/2) @ U of Kansas

If you just take a look at their last 4 games you'll see a completly different team than their 3-8 record shows. They put Oklahoma's back to the wall losing 17-7, then played at Missouri tough losing 42-28...last week they beat Kansas State 31-20... then this past weekend down 21-0 at half, they storm back to win 31-28 vs. Colorado.

L.SU. @ Ole Mississippi (+18)

Even though they are 3-8, they ...ok there's not much great to say about them. I think I'll bet big on LSU this weekend. I don't think even if Eli came back they'd have a shot. (please jinx please jinx)

Missouri @ Kansas State (+8)

At 5-5 they'e one game off from being bowl eligible. A very wishy washy team. Who will show up? The team that went into Austin and beat Texas by 20. Or the one that lost to Nebraska last week 73-31, They have the ability to put points on the board. At home they are 4-1 this year, the loss 30-24 to Kansas. Jordy Nelson leads them with 1,347 yards recieving ant 9 td's.


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