Game Thread BCS National Championship Game: tOSU 24, LSU 38 (final)

[gregorylee]

I appreciate that OSU is very focused and wants to win. I know most OSU fans think they have an advantage with the motivation factor and that LSU is distracted. This LSU team is a big game team and this NC is not the biggest thing to happen in LA since Katrina. LSU's team will NOT be distracted. If OSU comes to this game thinking LSU will not be fired up and emotional ready to play, that is a huge mistake. LSU plays in the Superdome every other year with our Tulane series. They have a routine for when games are going to be played in NO.

tOSU had a routine for Arizona too....

 

[sluTiger]

tOSU had a routine for Arizona too....

Seriously, do you really think LSU is not going to be as motivated as OSU to play in the NCG?

 

[gregorylee]

Seriously, do you really think LSU is not going to be as motivated as OSU to play in the NCG?

I never said that, I was just replying to your statement about being used to going to NOLA and the Superdome.

 

[sluTiger]

I never said that, I was just replying to your statement about being used to going to NOLA and the Superdome.

LSU just finished playing the Sugar Bowl in NO. They played a team they were suppose to kill and they killed them.... LSU will be ready and the OSU loss last year will have no bearing on the game.

 

[sandgk]

here sluTiger - this is all you need

 

[Bucksfan4life]

LSU just finished playing the Sugar Bowl in NO. They played a team they were suppose to kill and they killed them.... LSU will be ready and the OSU loss last year will have no bearing on the game.

The same Notre Dame team that got beat badly by Michigan last year?Notre dame was garbage last year.

 

[JohnLSU]

First of all, I find it interesting that way y'all see that victory over that Arizona State team led by Jake Plummer. That game was a good while ago, but I've always thought that Arizona State won that game. In conversations with others about some of the best games in college football, I'll tell them about how a ASU team led by Jake the Snake took down an Ohio State team that everybody thought was going to win. And no one has ever pointed out to me that OSU actually won that game. It wasn't until preparing for this 2007 NC game and coming across Ohio State's bowl wins that I realized that ASU actually lost that game. So I double-checked, and sure enough, Ohio State did win that game. But the reason that game went down in my memory as a win for ASU and one of the greatest QB performances in history by Jake Plummer, is because I thought OSU should have won big, and they didn't. So I always felt that ASU out-played OSU, and I've always thought Jake Plummer was a hero because of that. Over time, I forgot the score and just thought that ASU won outright.

Second, I find it funny that y'all believe that "most the country hates the buckeyes, because at some point or another, we've kicked their ass." Since 1975, Ohio State is 0-4 against USC, 0-3 against FSU, 0-3 against Alabama, 0-2 against South Carolina, 0-1 against Tennessee, 0-1 against Georgia, 0-1 against Auburn, 0-1 against Florida, 0-1 against Air Force, 0-1 against Clemson.

To be one of those teams that is hated by everybody, you to one of those teams that is just absolutely dominating college football. The last team like that was USC from 2003 to 2005. In 2003, they lost to California in 3OT early in the season. After that, they just went around dominating everybody they played, including Notre Dame (45 to 14), Washington (43 to 23), Washington State (43 to 16), Arizona (45 to 0), UCLA (47 to 22), and finally Michigan in the Rose Bowl (28-14). They finish the season ranked #1 in the AP. In 2004, they were #1 every week of the entire season, going 13-0, and beating teams such as Arizona State (45 to 7), Washington (38 to 0), Washington State (42 to 12), Arizona (49 to 9), Notre Dame (41 to 10), and finally Oklahoma in the national championship (55 to 19). Then in 2005, they were #1 every week of the entire season, going undefeated again, beating teams like Arkansas (70 to 17), Oregon (45 to 13), Arizona (42 to 21), Washington (51 to 24), Washington State (55 to 13), and UCLA (66 to 19). Finally, their reign of terror came to an end when Texas took them down 38 to 41 in the NC. But USC's 33 consecutive appearances at #1 in the AP Poll shattered the previous all-time record of 21.

 

[Jaxbuck]

First of all, I find it interesting that way y'all see that victory over that Arizona State team led by Jake Plummer. That game was a good while ago, but I've always thought that Arizona State won that game. In conversations with others about some of the best games in college football, I'll tell them about how a ASU team led by Jake the Snake took down an Ohio State team that everybody thought was going to win. And no one has ever pointed out to me that OSU actually won that game. It wasn't until preparing for this 2007 NC game and coming across Ohio State's bowl wins that I realized that ASU actually lost that game. So I double-checked, and sure enough, Ohio State did win that game. But the reason that game went down in my memory as a win for ASU and one of the greatest QB performances in history by Jake Plummer, is because I thought OSU should have won big, and they didn't. So I always felt that ASU out-played OSU, and I've always thought Jake Plummer was a hero because of that. Over time, I forgot the score and just thought that ASU won outright.

Second, I find it funny that y'all believe that "most the country hates the buckeyes, because at some point or another, we've kicked their ass." Since 1975, Ohio State is 0-4 against USC, 0-3 against FSU, 0-3 against Alabama, 0-2 against South Carolina, 0-1 against Tennessee, 0-1 against Georgia, 0-1 against Auburn, 0-1 against Florida, 0-1 against Air Force, 0-1 against Clemson.

To be one of those teams that is hated by everybody, you to one of those teams that is just absolutely dominating college football. The last team like that was USC from 2003 to 2005. In 2003, they lost to California in 3OT early in the season. After that, they just went around dominating everybody they played, including Notre Dame (45 to 14), Washington (43 to 23), Washington State (43 to 16), Arizona (45 to 0), UCLA (47 to 22), and finally Michigan in the Rose Bowl (28-14). They finish the season ranked #1 in the AP. In 2004, they were #1 every week of the entire season, going 13-0, and beating teams such as Arizona State (45 to 7), Washington (38 to 0), Washington State (42 to 12), Arizona (49 to 9), Notre Dame (41 to 10), and finally Oklahoma in the national championship (55 to 19). Then in 2005, they were #1 every week of the entire season, going undefeated again, beating teams like Arkansas (70 to 17), Oregon (45 to 13), Arizona (42 to 21), Washington (51 to 24), Washington State (55 to 13), and UCLA (66 to 19). Finally, their reign of terror came to an end when Texas took them down 38 to 41 in the NC. But USC's 33 consecutive appearances at #1 in the AP Poll shattered the previous all-time record of 21.

Not sure where the 1975 thing comes from but from 1975-2006:
OSU win % .753
USC win % .696


2001-2007 (pre Bowl games):
OSU 73-15 1 BCS NC (3 BCS title games 1 tbd)
USC 75-14 1 BCS NC (2 BCS title games)

We have a run of success and its because the B10 sucks/is so weak.

USC has a run in an equally if not weaker Pac 10 at the time and the best team of all time talk starts.

 

[Zurp]

First of all, I find it interesting that way y'all see that victory over that Arizona State team led by Jake Plummer. That game was a good while ago, but I've always thought that Arizona State won that game. In conversations with others about some of the best games in college football, I'll tell them about how a ASU team led by Jake the Snake took down an Ohio State team that everybody thought was going to win. And no one has ever pointed out to me that OSU actually won that game. It wasn't until preparing for this 2007 NC game and coming across Ohio State's bowl wins that I realized that ASU actually lost that game. So I double-checked, and sure enough, Ohio State did win that game. But the reason that game went down in my memory as a win for ASU and one of the greatest QB performances in history by Jake Plummer, is because I thought OSU should have won big, and they didn't. So I always felt that ASU out-played OSU, and I've always thought Jake Plummer was a hero because of that. Over time, I forgot the score and just thought that ASU won outright.

What was the Vegas point-spread? Was Ohio State even favored? I find it very hard to believe that, even if Ohio State was favored, that they "should have won big." Arizona State was 11-0, and ranked #2 in the country. Ohio State had just allowed Michigan to shatter its national championship hopes (again), and was 10-1, and ranked #4. If you thought Ohio State should have won big, that's your problem. And if you watched any of that game, you'd realize that Ohio State held Jake Plummer to 17 points. 17!!! How can you feel that ASU out-played Ohio State if they only scored 17 points?!?

To be one of those teams that is hated by everybody, you to one of those teams that is just absolutely dominating college football. The last team like that was USC from 2003 to 2005. In 2003, they lost to California in 3OT early in the season. After that, they just went around dominating everybody they played, including Notre Dame (45 to 14), Washington (43 to 23), Washington State (43 to 16), Arizona (45 to 0), UCLA (47 to 22), and finally Michigan in the Rose Bowl (28-14). They finish the season ranked #1 in the AP. In 2004, they were #1 every week of the entire season, going 13-0, and beating teams such as Arizona State (45 to 7), Washington (38 to 0), Washington State (42 to 12), Arizona (49 to 9), Notre Dame (41 to 10), and finally Oklahoma in the national championship (55 to 19). Then in 2005, they were #1 every week of the entire season, going undefeated again, beating teams like Arkansas (70 to 17), Oregon (45 to 13), Arizona (42 to 21), Washington (51 to 24), Washington State (55 to 13), and UCLA (66 to 19). Finally, their reign of terror came to an end when Texas took them down 38 to 41 in the NC. But USC's 33 consecutive appearances at #1 in the AP Poll shattered the previous all-time record of 21.

LSU and Ohio State each showed in that time period that blowing out Notre Dame is not earth-shattering. You ought not include them in your lists.

 

[JohnLSU]

Not sure where the 1975 thing comes from but from 1975-2006:
OSU win % .753
USC win % .696


2001-2007 (pre Bowl games):
OSU 73-15 1 BCS NC (3 BCS title games 1 tbd)
USC 75-14 1 BCS NC (2 BCS title games)

We have a run of success and its because the B10 sucks/is so weak.

USC has a run in an equally if not weaker Pac 10 at the time and the best team of all time talk starts.

Trust me, the Pac 10 is much weaker than the Big Ten. And you are missing my point when you compare OSU's overall program to USC's overall program. The point is the USC's program put it all together in 2003 to 2005 and had the greatest run in college football history. All Ohio State had was 2006 where they looked like the greatest team on the planet (and they didn't just beat up the Big Ten, they beat a very good Texas team) and then they got absolutely humiliated like a bunch of little girls by Florida 41-14. It's one of the most humiliating experiences that any program has had in college football history. I don't anybody hates the Buckeyes. If anything, I'd think they'd feel sorry for them. I certainly do. I'm just glad LSU isn't some sort of dominating program either, we have two losses this year, and Arkansas and Kentucky wouldn't be considered powerhouses by anybody. It's not fun being one of those dominating programs, because everybody wants a piece of you (look at USC being taken down by little Stanford this year). Now, the problem is that we are in the SEC, which is the most dominating conference... and that sucks for us because every other conference wants to kick our ass and take us down a notch.

 

[OregonBuckeye]

To be one of those teams that is hated by everybody, you to one of those teams that is just absolutely dominating college football.

We haven't been? I guess 5 BCS bowls in 6 years, 3 NC games in 6 years, and a 66-10 record during that same span is fairly pedestrian.

It's one of the most humiliating experiences that any program has had in college football history.

If you believe ESPN, yes. But, if you think for yourself, no.

 

[Steve19]

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I think this discussion will have highlighted for some of our visiting LSU fans that there is a lot of nonsense out there about Ohio State getting beat by teams we should have beat.

Games ten years ago have no relevance in our discussion about this game. These are both good teams. They'll both be ready. But, there can be no denying that Ohio State has something to prove. So, we'll see on the day and let's hope the best team wins.

 

[JohnLSU]

What was the Vegas point-spread? Was Ohio State even favored? I find it very hard to believe that, even if Ohio State was favored, that they "should have won big." Arizona State was 11-0, and ranked #2 in the country. Ohio State had just allowed Michigan to shatter its national championship hopes (again), and was 10-1, and ranked #4. If you thought Ohio State should have won big, that's your problem. And if you watched any of that game, you'd realize that Ohio State held Jake Plummer to 17 points. 17!!! How can you feel that ASU out-played Ohio State if they only scored 17 points?!

That year, as normal, the Pac 10 wasn't that great. Besides ASU, only Washington finished in the top 25. With Big Ten, you had five teams finish in the top 25 -- OSU, Penn State, Northwestern, Iowa, Michigan. Everybody thought OSU would kill ASU. When Jake Plummer kept them in the game, it was pretty amazing. Like I said, I honestly forgot that OSU had actually won.

 

[JohnLSU]

Games ten years ago have no relevance in our discussion about this game.

True.

 

[Jaxbuck]

The point is the USC's program put it all together in 2003 to 2005 and had the greatest run in college football history.

Easy on the hyperbole there John.

They had a tremendous record in that 3 year span but its nowhere near the greatest run in CFB history. 37-2 with 1 NC is the final tally and a lot of that is in question with the Reggie Bush scandal. The NCAA cannot strip NC's but they can vacate wins.

1994-1996 Nebraska went 36-2 with legit B2B NC's
2000-2002 Miami 35-2 1 NC

Those are 2 streaks just in the past 10 years that are equal to or better than USC's run. If you go back and look at the history of CFB there are numerous examples of better 3 year periods than what USC did.