Game Thread BCS National Championship Game: tOSU 24, LSU 38 (final)

[sandgk]

That year, as normal, the Pac 10 wasn't that great. Besides ASU, only Washington finished in the top 25. With Big Ten, you had five teams finish in the top 25 -- OSU, Penn State, Northwestern, Iowa, Michigan. Everybody thought OSU would kill ASU. When Jake Plummer kept them in the game, it was pretty amazing. Like I said, I honestly forgot that OSU had actually won.

John - that bolded part simply isn't true. I cannot give you the precise line but I do recall that it was very narrow.
As for the relative merits of the Big 10 and PAC 10 in that year - aside from underscoring the cyclical nature of the game - it has little relevance to the perceived strength of ASU as a team in that year. They were ranked #2 for a reason. Besides which the contrast between the Buckeyes prior game and that of the Sun Devils couldn't be more glaring. OSU - loss to TSUN, ASU rolled up 651 on rival Arizona in their prior game, then were held 224 below their 500 yard average by the Buckeyes in the Rose Bowl.

OK - back to the BCS Championship game.

 

[JohnLSU]

We haven't been? I guess 5 BCS bowls in 6 years, 3 NC games in 6 years, and a 66-10 record during that same span is fairly pedestrian. If you believe ESPN, yes. But, if you think for yourself, no.

You are missing the point. The conversation I am having is regarding those who think that everybody in the country hates Ohio State because they are so dominating. Yes, Ohio State has one of the most dominant programs in college football right now. Over on tigerforums, we are having a discussion of who the 10 most dominant programs are, and everyone includes OSU on the list, but everyone also agrees that USC is still the most dominant program. If anyone is going to be hated for being dominant, it is USC, not OSU. If you polled the nation you would see that most people consider USC's program to be the most dominant in college football today.

 

[DaytonBuck]

You are missing the point. The conversation I am having is regarding those who think that everybody in the country hates Ohio State because they are so dominating. Yes, Ohio State has one of the most dominant programs in college football right now. Over on tigerforums, we are having a discussion of who the 10 most dominant programs are, and everyone includes OSU on the list, but everyone also agrees that USC is still the most dominant program. If anyone is going to be hated for being dominant, it is USC, not OSU. If you polled the nation you would see that most people consider USC's program to be the most dominant in college football today.

If I polled the nation Chris Daughtry and Nickleback would be the top rock bands today

 

[JohnLSU]

Easy on the hyperbole there John.

They had a tremendous record in that 3 year span ... 37-2 with 1 NC is the final tally

1994-1996 Nebraska went 36-2 with legit B2B NC's
2000-2002 Miami 35-2 1 NC

Those are 2 streaks just in the past 10 years that are equal to or better than USC's run. If you go back and look at the history of CFB there are numerous examples of better 3 year periods than what USC did.

When I said greatest run, I was just talking about how they shattered the all-time record for consecutive appearances at the AP No. 1 spot. I'm not saying they were the greatest team in recent history. And yes, in recent history, you could make a good argument that 94-96 Nebraska and 00-02 Miami had greater runs. I mean that 00-02 Miami program had like seven guys end up going to the NFL and being all-pro. That was a hell of a game seeing OSU take them down. That goal line stand at the end was one of the greatest things I have ever seen in college football history.

 

[Jaxbuck]

When I said greatest run, I was just talking about how they shattered the all-time record for consecutive appearances at the AP No. 1 spot.

Ahh, then you should have said the greatest 3 year run of media love in CFB history and I would have just said "I agree."

 

[JohnLSU]

So how do you explain USC losing at home to a 40 point underdog?

Very simple. When you are the greatest team in the world, you have two disadvantages. First, you let it go to your head, and second, everybody gets jacked up to play you. It's the same reason Ohio State (who was the greatest team in the world at the time) lost so bad last year (or lost period) to Florida.

 

[JohnLSU]

If I polled the nation Chris Daughtry and Nickleback would be the top rock bands today

Do you honestly believe that?

 

[Buckeneye]

not to get to off topic, but I believe that; look at the record sales. I'm not saying I hate both artists, but they sure as hell are no where near my top.


So I went to ebay this morning to check tix prices for fun.... :(
wasnt so fun. I mean, how do some of these people sleep at night?

 

[notfadeaway]

not to get to off topic, but I believe that; look at the record sales. I'm not saying I hate both artists, but they sure as hell are no where near my top.


So I went to ebay this morning to check tix prices for fun.... :(
wasnt so fun. I mean, how do some of these people sleep at night?

on gold pillows and satin sheets

 

[DaytonBuck]

Do you honestly believe that?

NEW YORK (AP) ? He may not have won American Idol, but Chris Daughtry is the king of the album charts this year, according to Billboard. The Idol finalist's band, Daughtry, sold 3.2 million copies of their self-titled debut, making it the most popular album of the year, according to the trade magazine.

USA Today

 

[NastyDogg72]

What I think is being said is that success breeds contempt. Why do you think so many people are taking such satisfaction in ND's struggles this year? (BTW I'm one of them) Go to an Oklahoma message board, they equally bash tOSU and LSU because we are where they want to be. It is just human nature. It's why we hate the Yankees, likewise the Patriots and so on. The fact is tOSU has played in three consecutive National Championship Games, 06 FB - 07 BB - 07 FB, widespread criticism is to be expected. People can say all the negative things they want, in the end it will only help by making the team want to prove it wrong. That also is human nature.

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

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I find it funny that y'all believe that "most the country hates the buckeyes, because at some point or another, we've kicked their ass."...

May I recommend that in the future you use the Quote function (as I've done above) and speak to the person who says something that you take issue with.

Wording your response the way you did gives the (hopefully false) impression that you believe that all OSU fans have the opinion you're taking issue with.

Seriously... Some of the people on this board are among the most football savvy and intelligent, not to mention mature and classy people that I have had the pleasure to meet. Others are 14-year-olds that shouldn't be allowed on the internet without their parents' supervision. You'll get a better reception if you don't give the (hopefully false) impression that you're speaking to all of us with the same message.

 

[Bleed S & G]

and the OSU loss last year will have no bearing on the game.

100% incorrect.

It's already had a bearing on the game, as we're traveling different, practicing different, etc.

Trust me, that 41-14 was talked about quite a bit this year - it will effect motivation and thus have a bearing on the field as well as the preparation.

 

[Bleed S & G]

Second, I find it funny that y'all believe that "most the country hates the buckeyes, because at some point or another, we've kicked their ass." Since 1975, Ohio State is 0-4 against USC, 0-3 against FSU, 0-3 against Alabama, 0-2 against South Carolina, 0-1 against Tennessee, 0-1 against Georgia, 0-1 against Auburn, 0-1 against Florida, 0-1 against Air Force, 0-1 against Clemson.

To be one of those teams that is hated by everybody, you to one of those teams that is just absolutely dominating college football. The last team like that was USC from 2003 to 2005. In 2003, they lost to California in 3OT early in the season.

1.) I was joking - it applys to someone like a Mark May though.


2.) Since 1975 we're the 4th winningst program in D-1A

Nebraska 0.80151​

Florida State 0.76607​

Michigan 0.76026​

Ohio State 0.75256​

LSU is 24th by the way.



3.) Since Tressel's arrival (2001):

Boise State 0.85714​

Texas 0.85714​

Southern Cal 0.84416​

Ohio State 0.81579​

Only 3 wins from Southern Cal, and 4 from 1st with UT and Boise.

4.) IMO, and I'm an obivous homer, Ohio State is in the beginning of their "dynasty" or at least has a chance to become a "dynasty"..

• It cycles through programs, Nebraska, Miami, USC,...
• 2005-2006: 10-2
• 2006-2007: 12-1 National Title Game
• 2007-2008: 11-1 National Title Game
• 2008-2009: 2 seniors on 07-08 team, everyones back. remember: we were "rebuilding" this year.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, we've been in back to back MNC games now, and we have the majority of our team returning next year, along with another great recruiting class. We could go back-to-back with 3 title apperances in 3 years. If thats not dominating I don't know what is.

In terms of losing to alabama, sc, etc.

Last I checked, we beat Notre Dame, #2 Texas, #2 scUM last year/bowl game from 2005.. Flordia got the best of us, but now we have a chance to beat LSU, then USC.

We may not be a "dynasty" but to say Ohio State isn't dominating most of the CFB world right now, I disagree. We're playing some very good football. As is LSU.

Stat source: Win percentage computation form

 

[gregorylee]

May I recommend that in the future you use the Quote function (as I've done above) and speak to the person who says something that you take issue with.

Wording your response the way you did gives the (hopefully false) impression that you believe that all OSU fans have the opinion you're taking issue with.

Seriously... Some of the people on this board are among the most football savvy and intelligent, not to mention mature and classy people that I have had the pleasure to meet. Others are 14-year-olds that shouldn't be allowed on the internet without their parents' supervision. You'll get a better reception if you don't give the (hopefully false) impression that you're speaking to all of us with the same message.

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