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Game Thread BCS National Championship Game: tOSU 24, LSU 38 (final)

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efficiency numbers:

Ohio State offense: 12.41 yards/point
Ohio State defense: 21.12 yards/point

LSU offense: 11.58 yards/point
LSU defense: 14.47 yards/point

inside the numbers: LSU has around 1100 more yards of offense than Ohio State this year and has scored 119 more points. conversely, the Buckeyes have allowed roughly 1000 fewer yards and half the points as the Tigers have (127).
 
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lvbuckeye;1023414; said:
efficiency numbers:

Ohio State offense: 12.41 yards/point
Ohio State defense: 21.12 yards/point

LSU offense: 11.58 yards/point
LSU defense: 14.47 yards/point

inside the numbers: LSU has around 1100 more yards of offense than Ohio State this year and has scored 119 more points. conversely, the Buckeyes have allowed roughly 1000 fewer yards and half the points as the Tigers have (127).
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Those triple OT games unfairly reward LSU on offense and unfairly penalize them on defense. I wonder how the numbers would look excluding OTs.
 
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the overtimes have a large effect on the scoring part of the equation, but six OTs don't add 1000 yards on offense, or cause you to give up another 1000 yards on defense. the numbers are what they are. the OTs count.
 
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Jaxbuck;1023243; said:
A fully healthy scUM offense doing what its capable of, can do damage to UF's defense. I know I'm in the minority but I think scUM has at least a punchers chance.
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Yeah, I don't get how the vast majority assumes that Michigan doesn't have a chance in hell against Florida. Michigan started of with those two losses to App State and Oregon (who nobody knew was awesome at the time), and most people just figured Michigan didn't have a ball team this year. Most don't realize how stacked the Michigan team is. They've got just as much talent as Florida. I have no idea why Michigan hasn't done what it's capable of doing this year, but it happens to teams all the time. But they have this whole post-season break to get their team chemistry back together. It's the last game for Carr after 27 years on the Michigan coaching staff (7 seasons as Defensive Coordinator and 12 seasons as HC). It's also the last time that Seniors like Henne, Hart, Long, Crable, etc will be wearing a Michigan jersey. I'll be surprised if Michigan doesn't at least make the game competitive. It's one of the games I am looking most forward to watching this bowl season.

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JohnLSU;1023429; said:
Yeah, I don't get how the vast majority assumes that Michigan doesn't have a chance in hell against Florida. Michigan started of with those two losses to App State and Oregon (who nobody knew was awesome at the time), and most people just figured Michigan didn't have a ball team this year. Most don't realize how stacked the Michigan team is. They've got just as much talent as Florida. I have no idea why Michigan hasn't done what it's capable of doing this year, but it happens to teams all the time. But they have this whole post-season break to get their team chemistry back together. It's the last game for Carr after 27 years on the Michigan coaching staff (7 seasons as Defensive Coordinator and 12 seasons as HC). It's also the last time that Seniors like Henne, Hart, Long, Crable, etc will be wearing a Michigan jersey. I'll be surprised if Michigan doesn't at least make the game competitive. It's one of the games I am looking most forward to watching this bowl season.

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3 of the 4 games Michigan lost they did'nt have full use of Mike Hart.
 
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lvbuckeye;1023427; said:
the overtimes have a large effect on the scoring part of the equation, but six OTs don't add 1000 yards on offense, or cause you to give up another 1000 yards on defense. the numbers are what they are. the OTs count.
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I agree that the yards aren't greatly affected by OT. I think we both also agree that the yards/point for the LSU offense and LSU defense would figure lower because only 25 yards are required for a TD in OT, making the offense look better and the defense look worse. Given that it is 2 out of 13 games, the difference is probably not that much.
 
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I hope to God that Heacock is watching the Steelers(and their former Buckeye DC) pressure Brady and making him look like any other QB.

I still have such a lingering fear from last year that we'll gameplan to just play soft and keep everything in front of us. From what I've seen this year neither LSU QB reacts well to pressure(no one's QB does really).
 
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lvbuckeye;1023427; said:
the overtimes have a large effect on the scoring part of the equation, but six OTs don't add 1000 yards on offense, or cause you to give up another 1000 yards on defense. the numbers are what they are. the OTs count.
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True - and all one need do is actually deduct the yards gained (accounting for extra distance / gains created by penalties) and the numbers can then line up correctly for regulation.

Given that, all one would have to deduct from LSU's tallies are 123 yards of Offensive output and 111 yards gained on the Tigers Defense.

These are dwarfed by the tallies from the SEC championship game. Which, if you want everything on a "level" playing field of a 12-game tally would toss an additional 343 yards off the totals given up their Defense, plus the 464 yards gained by their Offense against the Vols D.

Then it will be a simply matter to tally the points at regulation, either in the 12-game schedule, or better in my view, in their full season.

(The points deducted would be a total of 30 points by LSU's Offense, versus 38 given up by the Tigers D).

These changes for their full 13-game season, excluding overtime yards and points result in the following:

on D - 16.7 yards per point given up
on O - 12.05 yards per point gained.
 
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Rather than getting bogged down in a number crunching paralysis by analysis debate, let me ask a couple of simple, straight forward questions.

#1 What is the Buckeyes record against the SEC in regular season competition since 1950?

#2 What is the Buckeyes record against SEC teams in bowl games?
 
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COTiger;1023510; said:
Rather than getting bogged down in a number crunching paralysis by analysis debate, let me ask a couple of simple, straight forward questions.

#1 What is the Buckeyes record against the SEC in regular season competition since 1950?

#2 What is the Buckeyes record against SEC teams in bowl games?
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Not sure but I know we are 1-0-1 vs LSU.
 
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COTiger;1023510; said:
Rather than getting bogged down in a number crunching paralysis by analysis debate, let me ask a couple of simple, straight forward questions.

#1 What is the Buckeyes record against the SEC in regular season competition since 1950?

#2 What is the Buckeyes record against SEC teams in bowl games?
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Let me ask this:
#1 What do either of these have to do with this years game???
#2 Why would you ask such a STUPID question?:biggrin:
 
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notfadeaway;1023514; said:
Let me ask this:
#1 What do either of these have to do with this years game???
#2 Why would you ask such a STUPID question?:biggrin:
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Ah, my friend studying history often provides valuable insight into future events. :biggrin:

You may consider #2 stupid, to me it illustrates an alarming trend from the Buckeyes perspective. :wink2:
 
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