Game Thread BCS National Championship Game: tOSU 24, LSU 38 (final)

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

Uh, Schaefer is a running QB. Anyone who knows FB knows that a running QB is one of the hardest things to stop. It creates 11 on 11 and it is difficult. That's the problem when facing Tebow. FACT is, as previously stated, no one player has rushed for 100 yds against us outside of D-Mac. Had D-Mac lined up at RB and not QB it would have been different. He WAS a QB in HS so there is a very real threat of his passing ability. Wells is a different story.

If their rushing attack is a worry to us, they must be terrified of ours. Against stiffer competition we've got 400 yds more than them and 14 more TDs. So I'm sick of this Wells talk.

Brent Schaeffer, running QB

33 ATT 155 yards (8 - 94 of which came against LSU)

Try again.

 

[jwinslow]

So I'm sick of this Wells talk.

Well he must be unworthy of respect then, if you're sick of hearing about him

If you want to actually talk football, then do so. But save the homeristic nonsense for the smackboards. Obviously you can't stand to give Beanie credit for who knows what reason. Jacob Hester is not the best back OSU will face this year, but that won't prevent him from getting tough yards.

 

[sluTiger]

Well he must be unworthy of respect then, if you're sick of hearing about him

If you want to actually talk football, then do so. But save the homeristic nonsense for the smackboards. Obviously you can't stand to give Beanie credit for who knows what reason. Jacob Hester is not the best back OSU will face this year, but that won't prevent him from getting tough yards.

I think Wells is on par with most SEC back and better NFL material than Hester. I would say physical Hester is not the best you have faced, but mentally he is the best you have faced. Basically when I think of Big10 football, I think of players like Hester. 4.5 speed or better and not afraid to lay the wood.

Williams and Scott are better than any RB you guys have faced this year but they run light and can be brought down easier than Hester. Williams especially tries to avoid contact and Scott is just not as tough as his physical nature would indicate. I think that is why Hester has been the starter all year long, he is just what Miles looks for in a running back.

I have stated that Wells is not the best RB we faced this year. That honor goes to McFadden who is an incredbile physical freak. To be able to move at 4.3 speed or better in full pads with his size, geezee. I would argue that McFadden would run for 200+ against Ohio State's defense from the WildHog. Not that you guys are bad; he is that damn good.

 

[Lockup]

I think Wells is on par with most SEC back and better NFL material than Hester. I would say physical Hester is not the best you have faced, but mentally he is the best you have faced. Basically when I think of Big10 football, I think of players like Hester. 4.5 speed or better and not afraid to lay the wood.

Williams and Scott are better than any RB you guys have faced this year but they run light and can be brought down easier than Hester. Williams especially tries to avoid contact and Scott is just not as tough as his physical nature would indicate. I think that is why Hester has been the starter all year long, he is just what Miles looks for in a running back.

I have stated that Wells is not the best RB we faced this year. That honor goes to McFadden who is an incredbile physical freak. To be able to move at 4.3 speed or better in full pads with his size, geezee. I would argue that McFadden would run for 200+ against Ohio State's defense from the WildHog. Not that you guys are bad; he is that damn good.

Your trying to say that 2 RB who combined did not rush for a 1000 yards are the best we will have seen all year? I highly doubt that.

 

[billmac91]

all things considred, maybe its true. I'm not sure. I think you can make a case for guys like Ringer and especially Mendenhall, but their offensive lines aren't nearly as good as LSU's. Kinlaw is decent, but again, I'd probably put LSU's trio ahead of that and Mike Hart wasn't 100%.

Truthfully, we haven't faced many great RB's this year. Sutton was out, PJ Hill was out, Minnesota was Minnesota, YSU, Akron, Kent St, Washington, etc. We just didn't get tested like we probably would have liked.

That doesn't mean we're just going to be dominated, I just think this will be our biggest test of the year, when defending the run.

 

[sluTiger]

Your trying to say that 2 RB who combined did not rush for a 1000 yards are the best we will have seen all year? I highly doubt that.

That is exactly what I am saying. They did not rush for 1000 yards because that is not how LSU uses its running backs. Having a 1000 yard back at LSU is very rare. I am saying those two guys are better than any other RB you have seen ... Seriously, I would not worry about getting dominated, LSU has not dominated anyone all year long. I am just giving my opinion of LSU talent.

 

[Lockup]

That is exactly what I am saying. They did not rush for 1000 yards because that is not how LSU uses its running backs. Having a 1000 yard back at LSU is very rare. I am saying those two guys are better than any other RB you have seen ... Seriously, I would not worry about getting dominated, LSU has not dominated anyone all year long. I am just giving my opinion of LSU talent.

Well that is my point. Hester has nearly twice as many carries as both of them combined. So if they are so great (at least great enough that they will be the best we have seen) why is Hester getting the ball so much? they are certainly talanted but to say they are the best we have seen all year is a bit of a stretch I think. You yourself pointed out some pretty good weaknesses of them.

what makes them so good that they will be the best we have seen this year but they are not good enough to even get the ball as much as Hester?

 

[Nutriaitch]

So if they are so great (at least great enough that they will be the best we have seen) why is Hester getting the ball so much?

From a pure talent standpoint, Hester is our 3rd or 4th best back. But he is also the most "complete" back we have. His experience and intagibles is what gets him the carries. That and Miles has a tendency to favor Seniors over underclassmen.

 

[scarletngray]

all things considred, maybe its true. I'm not sure. I think you can make a case for guys like Ringer and especially Mendenhall, but their offensive lines aren't nearly as good as LSU's. Kinlaw is decent, but again, I'd probably put LSU's trio ahead of that and Mike Hart wasn't 100%.

Truthfully, we haven't faced many great RB's this year. Sutton was out, PJ Hill was out, Minnesota was Minnesota, YSU, Akron, Kent St, Washington, etc. We just didn't get tested like we probably would have liked.

That doesn't mean we're just going to be dominated, I just think this will be our biggest test of the year, when defending the run.

Stopping LSU's running game will be one of the key's to victory, no doubt. I would have to disagree though about the level of competition at RB. Washington had a very good RB with 4.3 speed, as mentioned before, Ringer (was leading the nation in ypc when we played them), and MSU also had a pretty good backup, Mendenhall and Hart (scUM's all time leading rusher) are better than anyone LSU has. It wasn't Hart's ankle, but the OSU D that shut him down.

Hester is a very good back, versitle and a potent weapon at FB, in passing situations. He will pose problems, but I think his style of running falls right into tOSU strength. JMO

 

[sandgk]

Wells is a different story.

Wells is indeed a very different story - more physical than you evidently give him credit for.

If their rushing attack is a worry to us, they must be terrified of ours. Against stiffer competition we've got 400 yds more than them and 14 more TDs.

The one thing Ohio State has done this year is a great job, consistently, of holding opponents under their rushing average.
That was true, though only barely, even in the one loss to Illinois.
Getting the extra yards you cite has to be balanced against the extra game played just this last weekend. Factor in that game and you are really taking about a net of 20 yards extra per game.
Not discounting the TD count, but this also may say more about the general strength of the Defenses you faced in their ranking as Scoring Defenses. In the SEC, the toughest you faced on the count was Auburn.
In OOC play there was the VT game, but that is such a clear outlier in VT's season that no sensible observer would now call the 48-7 drubbing typical.
As it stands LSU will be facing the best Scoring Defense thus far on 1/7.

So I'm sick of this Wells talk.

Then why, on an Ohio State board, did you even go to the trouble of raising the topic at all?

 

[buckeyeinfla]

flynn doesn't impress me in the least...i would take away the lsu run game a let him try to beat osu...i don't think he can

 

[starBUCKS]

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OSU Doesn't Stand a Chance*
Dec 05, 2007 | 1:08PM | report this Now that the bowl match-ups have been decided by people much wiser than anyone who hangs out in here, we might as well talk about the games.
Obviously, I am going to talk about one game. The BCS National Championship Game between THE Ohio State Buckeyes and the Louisiana State Bayou Bengals. Perhaps you have not had to pleasure of reading any of my previous scribble, so I will reiterate that my mother is from Shreveport, LA. Thus, a good portion of my family pays tribute to the Purple & Gold. Amazingly some were even able to graduate from that very school. Growing up in Ohio has warped my mind and the Buckeye Nation swayed me to their side long ago, however I still pull for the Tigers from time to time.
This will not be one of those times.
Let me refresh the listening audience regarding all the reasons OSU will be beaten like an English school- teacher in a Muslim country?.
OSU is a team from the Big Ten conference that doesn?t have a single athlete that can run anything faster than a 6.2 forty. LSU, on the other hand, is from the most masterful college football conference of all time?The Ssssss Eeeeeeee Cccccccc (ominous James Earl Jones echo).
Every player in the SEC, including the punters and long snappers, can run a sub 4.5 forty. Ok, forget it, put us in the Holiday Bowl and let The Greatest Team of All Time w/ 2 losses, USC, play LSU for the title. Give the people what they want!!!! Right, %#@& the people, give Pete_Nice what he wants, OSU in the title game.
Ok where was I?oh right? OSU has never beaten an SEC team in a bowl game (O fer 8 y?all!). Well it ain?t happenen this year either. As I mentioned before, their long snapper can out run our fastest guy, so why show up? Well the gumbo and the BLEEP ?s are real nice in Nawlins , for one thing. Hopefully the Buckeye receivers and defensive backs can crack 5.0 on their forty times by game day, and might have a chance to make at least three tackles if the LSU players trip or something.
Les Miles will out coach Jim Tressel?..ok, I can?t even say that tongue-in-cheek. Better chance of him coaching the Wolverines next season than out-coaching The Senator. I just swallowed my gum.
The game will be played in Louisiana. Well that BLEEP s. I sure hope at least a couple of hundred Buckeye fans make the trip. Nothing like spending thousands of dollars and travelling hundreds or thousands of miles to watch your team get spanked like a Bill Clinton intern. Thank you sir, may I please have another!!!???
They have already engraved the trophy with LSU?s name and this game is just a formality. Gee, that sounds familiar?.
Glenn Dorsey will be healthy again by game day, and he can tackle the entire OSU offense by himself! WOW, now that will be worth the price of admission.
The super-fast, diminutive Trindon Holiday will run so fast, you will hear a sonic BOOM when he returns akick or punt for a touch down. Chris Leak might show up and throw one more TD pass for old times sake too. The LSU offense may never have to see the field.
And the number one reason OSU has no chance of winning the title game this year is?.
They lost to Florida last year.
Stay tuned for a more serious blog concerning how crucial this game is for the Buckeyes.
Until then, enjoy the season, enjoy the sports, and enjoy each other.

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Ahhh Ignorance.

 

[Lockup]

From a pure talent standpoint, Hester is our 3rd or 4th best back. But he is also the most "complete" back we have. His experience and intagibles is what gets him the carries. That and Miles has a tendency to favor Seniors over underclassmen.

Oh I completely understand this. My question was about the statment that the other two RB's for LSU will be the best we have seen all year. They are not even the best (or complete as you like to call it) on LSU. I think his statment is just plain foolish and so far he has offered nothing up to prove his point but others have pointed to at least three other backs we have faced this year who have proven they are as good if not better.

If you are that good you will get the ball plain and simple.

 

[billmac91]

Stopping LSU's running game will be one of the key's to victory, no doubt. I would have to disagree though about the level of competition at RB. Washington had a very good RB with 4.3 speed, as mentioned before, Ringer (was leading the nation in ypc when we played them), and MSU also had a pretty good backup, Mendenhall and Hart (scUM's all time leading rusher) are better than anyone LSU has. It wasn't Hart's ankle, but the OSU D that shut him down.

Hester is a very good back, versitle and a potent weapon at FB, in passing situations. He will pose problems, but I think his style of running falls right into tOSU strength. JMO

All valid points. I guess my position is: Ringer, Mendenhall, Hart are all better individually than Hester & co., but we haven't seen a ground game like LSU has this year.

They will pound us up the gut until we stop it. Let's hope our DT's can move the O-line, and hopefully Cam Heyward can slide down, with the possible return of Lawrence Wilson.

 

[Flocka]

Hester is a very good back, versitle and a potent weapon at FB, in passing situations. He will pose problems, but I think his style of running falls right into tOSU strength. JMO

Yeah, Hester is scary catching passes from the FB spot. I'm sure the staff has seen this and will prepare accordingly.