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Why don't you go over to their site and suck their ass instead of telling us how bad they beat ours. Asswipe.
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Why don't you go over to their site and suck their ass instead of telling us how bad they beat ours. Asswipe.
We didn't lose because of speed, we lost because of LSU's strength/push and discipline (our lack thereof). I'd say this could be weakly scraped as a silver lining, but we all know that the media (and many SEC fans, although this is not meant towards the bulk of the LSU fans we've enjoyed here the last month or so) will ignore that fact.
As others have said, a huge congrats to LSU. A convincing enough win, that there is no way they should have the media diluting their win by trying to annoint USC in parallel. The Tigers ARE the 2008 National Champions, and in a season as crazy as any of us have ever seen, they are absolutely unquestionabily deserving.
Before anyone here says something ridiculous like "JT is losing his lustre" they really need to consider what it takes to go to 2 national title games back to back. Three in six years. He's losing his sheen? You've lost your mind. This team was picked by most to be third in the Big Ten. Very few of us even here on this site picked this team to go 1 loss and play for the title. The team OVER achieved, they didn't under achieve. I'm not trying to be Pollyannish, I'm not trying to blow sunshine up your collective ass -- all I'm saying is that we have nothing to be ashamed of.
We were embarrassed by Florida. We were NOT embarrassed tonight. No "coulda shoulda woulda's" here. LSU flat won. Their defensive line is everything it's made out to be and more. No question. However, this was a much more hard fought game than last year's was. That shows in the stats. That shows in the effort on the field. The only place it doesn't show is in the score. The score, of course, is what it's all about. Don't mistake my point for some weak attempt to say "BUT look, we did better here and there!" That's not it at all. LSU won, but they won a much harder fought game than the score will suggest to those that didn't watch.
We are a very young team, and the future looks as bright as the recent past has. Don't for a second reduce what our team accomplished this year by remaining petulant about this loss for too long. We will be top 5 coming into next season. We will enter with a veteran team, and an enormously talented incoming class of recruits. This year was an extraordinary success based on general expectations, and we have no reason to expect anything less next year.
Two national championship losses in a row. 0-9 against the SEC. We're going to be roundly abused by opposing fans and the media for another year. You know what? GOOD. It was hunger that made us over achieve all this year. It will be hunger that drives us next year.
And hey, at least we're not the Buffalo Bills (yet).
I felt sick after last year's loss. Literally ill. My stomach and mind are still as I sit here typing this. I hate that we lost. But we lost a good game to a great team. In the process, we (as a site) evidenced again what makes us a different community than so many others. For the most part, we kept our cool, we're gracious in defeat, and we've made some new (and hopefully lasting) friends in the Tiger nation.
We have all the time in the world to break down this game and talk about what went wrong, and what went right. Don't worry about blame tonight. Don't try and roast Spitler, the O-line, Boeckman, or anyone else. These are all surface level considerations, and don't give proper time or credit to the whole of the game. I'm actually really looking forward to the community-level analysis that always comes after a loss around here, and it generally takes a few days for minds to clear enough for that to start to come together properly. It NEVER starts with "dump Boeckman" or "X, Y, and/or Z suck."
We played for the National Championship again. We lost. The latter hurts badly. The former is an undeniable source of pride, and an inarguable defense against those who would try and kick us while we're down.
THANK YOU, I say blindly and indirectly to our team and coaches, our seniors and any departing juniors in particular. Thanks to this community for ADDING to the joy of Buckeye football, at least for me, rather than detracting from it as I found so often elsewhere.
Congrats again to the National Champion LSU Tigers and all fans thereof. Enjoy this moment, I still remember what it was like as if it were yesterday, and I have the utmost confidence that I will experience it again in the near future.
LSU, USC, Ohio State -- these three programs aren't going anywhere. Maybe include Texas, Oklahoma, and Florida as well; the point was simply that next year starts this all anew, and those first three teams will be right back in the mix again.
Keep your heads up.
As others have said, a huge congrats to LSU. A convincing enough win, that there is no way they should have the media diluting their win by trying to annoint USC in parallel. The Tigers ARE the 2008 National Champions, and in a season as crazy as any of us have ever seen, they are absolutely unquestionabily deserving.
Before anyone here says something ridiculous like "JT is losing his lustre" they really need to consider what it takes to go to 2 national title games back to back. Three in six years. He's losing his sheen? You've lost your mind. This team was picked by most to be third in the Big Ten. Very few of us even here on this site picked this team to go 1 loss and play for the title. The team OVER achieved, they didn't under achieve. I'm not trying to be Pollyannish, I'm not trying to blow sunshine up your collective ass -- all I'm saying is that we have nothing to be ashamed of.
We were embarrassed by Florida. We were NOT embarrassed tonight. No "coulda shoulda woulda's" here. LSU flat won. Their defensive line is everything it's made out to be and more. No question. However, this was a much more hard fought game than last year's was. That shows in the stats. That shows in the effort on the field. The only place it doesn't show is in the score. The score, of course, is what it's all about. Don't mistake my point for some weak attempt to say "BUT look, we did better here and there!" That's not it at all. LSU won, but they won a much harder fought game than the score will suggest to those that didn't watch.
We are a very young team, and the future looks as bright as the recent past has. Don't for a second reduce what our team accomplished this year by remaining petulant about this loss for too long. We will be top 5 coming into next season. We will enter with a veteran team, and an enormously talented incoming class of recruits. This year was an extraordinary success based on general expectations, and we have no reason to expect anything less next year.
Two national championship losses in a row. 0-9 against the SEC. We're going to be roundly abused by opposing fans and the media for another year. You know what? GOOD. It was hunger that made us over achieve all this year. It will be hunger that drives us next year.
And hey, at least we're not the Buffalo Bills (yet).
I felt sick after last year's loss. Literally ill. My stomach and mind are still as I sit here typing this. I hate that we lost. But we lost a good game to a great team. In the process, we (as a site) evidenced again what makes us a different community than so many others. For the most part, we kept our cool, we're gracious in defeat, and we've made some new (and hopefully lasting) friends in the Tiger nation.
We have all the time in the world to break down this game and talk about what went wrong, and what went right. Don't worry about blame tonight. Don't try and roast Spitler, the O-line, Boeckman, or anyone else. These are all surface level considerations, and don't give proper time or credit to the whole of the game. I'm actually really looking forward to the community-level analysis that always comes after a loss around here, and it generally takes a few days for minds to clear enough for that to start to come together properly. It NEVER starts with "dump Boeckman" or "X, Y, and/or Z suck."
We played for the National Championship again. We lost. The latter hurts badly. The former is an undeniable source of pride, and an inarguable defense against those who would try and kick us while we're down.
THANK YOU, I say blindly and indirectly to our team and coaches, our seniors and any departing juniors in particular. Thanks to this community for ADDING to the joy of Buckeye football, at least for me, rather than detracting from it as I found so often elsewhere.
Congrats again to the National Champion LSU Tigers and all fans thereof. Enjoy this moment, I still remember what it was like as if it were yesterday, and I have the utmost confidence that I will experience it again in the near future.
LSU, USC, Ohio State -- these three programs aren't going anywhere. Maybe include Texas, Oklahoma, and Florida as well; the point was simply that next year starts this all anew, and those first three teams will be right back in the mix again.
Keep your heads up.
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WhoDeyForever
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Can anyone explain the roughing the kicker penalthy? Wasn't on the board during the time it happened...It bothered me the whole game because I really saw nothing wrong with it and it changed the whole game IMO..Could've been a 7 point game with a whole quarter to go..Damn refs:(
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craigblitz
Juice, Full of Juice!!
I disagree... The coaches did not drop a TD pass.. The coaches did not run into a punter... the coaches did no get a 15 yard penalty on a phantom hit out of bounds...
By the way if you are keeping track that was 21 points......
The better team won tonight no doubt, but it had nothing to do with the coaches being out coached.
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billmac91
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i had many good thoughts, and then they all got deleted.....fair enough.
Quick synopsis of what I saw and feel.
We played much more aggressive tonight, but got out-coached. Not in a sense that Heacock deserves ridicule, but in a sense that LSU deserves a ton of credit.
Our coaching staff should have recognized that Florida WOULD play dirty last year. Urban Meyer rarely lines up straight. His philosophy of utilizing "outside" athletes completely kept us off balance with weird formations and a game plan that treated every 5-6 yard gain as if it were a very significant win. Those 5-6 yard wins ended up in domination of our big play defense.
This year we were again fought DIRTY. We decided to be more agressive after the embarrassment we endured last year. Only problem is, the LSU coaching staff recognized where we lacked in aggressiveness last year, and recognized we would try to NOT repeat the same mistakes twice, AND THEY DOMINATED US.
LSU KILLED US WITH MISDIRECTION!!!! Plain and simple. We did not lose because we lack the athletes. We certainly do not, and will own the most NFL players single handedly after the draft this April. We got beat by a great gameplan that took advantage of our aggressiveness. LSU's coaching staff utilized our strenghths against us.
I could say a lot more, and break the game down a ton more but I doubt it makes any difference.
This loss hurts, and I won't want tp hear any type of media until the USC game next year.
Congrats to LSU for an excellent gameplan, and the execution of that gameplan.
Good luck to James, Malcolm, and Vernon as they proceed to the next phase of their lives. I'm sure they wish the left with a "W" instead of a National Championship "L".
Quick synopsis of what I saw and feel.
We played much more aggressive tonight, but got out-coached. Not in a sense that Heacock deserves ridicule, but in a sense that LSU deserves a ton of credit.
Our coaching staff should have recognized that Florida WOULD play dirty last year. Urban Meyer rarely lines up straight. His philosophy of utilizing "outside" athletes completely kept us off balance with weird formations and a game plan that treated every 5-6 yard gain as if it were a very significant win. Those 5-6 yard wins ended up in domination of our big play defense.
This year we were again fought DIRTY. We decided to be more agressive after the embarrassment we endured last year. Only problem is, the LSU coaching staff recognized where we lacked in aggressiveness last year, and recognized we would try to NOT repeat the same mistakes twice, AND THEY DOMINATED US.
LSU KILLED US WITH MISDIRECTION!!!! Plain and simple. We did not lose because we lack the athletes. We certainly do not, and will own the most NFL players single handedly after the draft this April. We got beat by a great gameplan that took advantage of our aggressiveness. LSU's coaching staff utilized our strenghths against us.
I could say a lot more, and break the game down a ton more but I doubt it makes any difference.
This loss hurts, and I won't want tp hear any type of media until the USC game next year.
Congrats to LSU for an excellent gameplan, and the execution of that gameplan.
Good luck to James, Malcolm, and Vernon as they proceed to the next phase of their lives. I'm sure they wish the left with a "W" instead of a National Championship "L".
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Clarity;1054849; said:We didn't lose because of speed, we lost because of LSU's strength/push and discipline (our lack thereof). I'd say this could be weakly scraped as a silver lining, but we all know that the media (and many SEC fans, although this is not meant towards the bulk of the LSU fans we've enjoyed here the last month or so) will ignore that fact.
As others have said, a huge congrats to LSU. A convincing enough win, that there is no way they should have the media diluting their win by trying to annoint USC in parallel. The Tigers ARE the 2008 National Champions, and in a season as crazy as any of us have ever seen, they are absolutely unquestionabily deserving.
Before anyone here says something ridiculous like "JT is losing his lustre" they really need to consider what it takes to go to 2 national title games back to back. Three in six years. He's losing his sheen? You've lost your mind. This team was picked by most to be third in the Big Ten. Very few of us even here on this site picked this team to go 1 loss and play for the title. The team OVER achieved, they didn't under achieve. I'm not trying to be Pollyannish, I'm not trying to blow sunshine up your collective ass -- all I'm saying is that we have nothing to be ashamed of.
We were embarrassed by Florida. We were NOT embarrassed tonight. No "coulda shoulda woulda's" here. LSU flat won. Their defensive line is everything it's made out to be and more. No question. However, this was a much more hard fought game than last year's was. That shows in the stats. That shows in the effort on the field. The only place it doesn't show is in the score. The score, of course, is what it's all about. Don't mistake my point for some weak attempt to say "BUT look, we did better here and there!" That's not it at all. LSU won, but they won a much harder fought game than the score will suggest to those that didn't watch.
We are a very young team, and the future looks as bright as the recent past has. Don't for a second reduce what our team accomplished this year by remaining petulant about this loss for too long. We will be top 5 coming into next season. We will enter with a veteran team, and an enormously talented incoming class of recruits. This year was an extraordinary success based on general expectations, and we have no reason to expect anything less next year.
Two national championship losses in a row. 0-9 against the SEC. We're going to be roundly abused by opposing fans and the media for another year. You know what? GOOD. It was hunger that made us over achieve all this year. It will be hunger that drives us next year.
And hey, at least we're not the Buffalo Bills (yet).
I felt sick after last year's loss. Literally ill. My stomach and mind are still as I sit here typing this. I hate that we lost. But we lost a good game to a great team. In the process, we (as a site) evidenced again what makes us a different community than so many others. For the most part, we kept our cool, we're gracious in defeat, and we've made some new (and hopefully lasting) friends in the Tiger nation.
We have all the time in the world to break down this game and talk about what went wrong, and what went right. Don't worry about blame tonight. Don't try and roast Spitler, the O-line, Boeckman, or anyone else. These are all surface level considerations, and don't give proper time or credit to the whole of the game. I'm actually really looking forward to the community-level analysis that always comes after a loss around here, and it generally takes a few days for minds to clear enough for that to start to come together properly. It NEVER starts with "dump Boeckman" or "X, Y, and/or Z suck."
We played for the National Championship again. We lost. The latter hurts badly. The former is an undeniable source of pride, and an inarguable defense against those who would try and kick us while we're down.
THANK YOU, I say blindly and indirectly to our team and coaches, our seniors and any departing juniors in particular. Thanks to this community for ADDING to the joy of Buckeye football, at least for me, rather than detracting from it as I found so often elsewhere.
Congrats again to the National Champion LSU Tigers and all fans thereof. Enjoy this moment, I still remember what it was like as if it were yesterday, and I have the utmost confidence that I will experience it again in the near future.
LSU, USC, Ohio State -- these three programs aren't going anywhere. Maybe include Texas, Oklahoma, and Florida as well; the point was simply that next year starts this all anew, and those first three teams will be right back in the mix again.
Keep your heads up.
Great post. I made some of the same points on a different board. There's always next year. Just go out and buy some earplugs for all of the BS we're about to hear from around the country.
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OCBucksFan
I won a math debate
mayk;1054838; said:
It's a shame I have already dinged you and can't again, that makes me sad.
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BuckeyeTillIDie
The North Remembers
The roughing the punter was just a poor angle on the ball.
Another crushing blow to our Buckeyes. I was looking for the ball by the goaline and was actually shocked to see it get through.
Another crushing blow to our Buckeyes. I was looking for the ball by the goaline and was actually shocked to see it get through.
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