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BCS Chances (El Gigante Merge)

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martinss01 said:
this thread is exactly why a playoff system will never work.

A. the money aspect. i think it has been shown rather clearly at this point that the amount of money a fan base can bring to the table is every bit as important as whether or not the team has earned the right to play in said bowl. thats not a statement on whether or not tOSU is more deserving than *insert team here*. simply a general statement based on the facts.

B. in various posts in regards to playoff threads and the bcs i have stated that there is no system that will please everyone. to which i have received the reply of "an *insert number of losses greater than or = to 1 team here* team doesn't have the right to complain about not being selected to play in the playoff". while i agree with the statement, it does not alter the fact that the teams that didn't make the cut would be unhappy and would have legitament complaints. think about it. how many posts in this thread alone have been made in an attempt to prove that tOSU is more deserving of a bcs bowl bid than nd or oregon? if we are going to fight this strongly for a bcs bowl bid... imagine the ferver these arguements would have behind them if an nc was on the line...

i think this thread rather clearly illustrates that while the fan base thinks they want a playoff. the fact is, they really don't. while few things would make me happier than tOSU getting a bcs bowl bid. i like everyone else on this board am praying for a nd matchup in the fiesta so we can utterly destroy the domers. i can't help shaking the feeling that college football is broken because deep down inside, we like it that way.

i now return you to your regularly scheduled thread. :biggrin:
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I am one of the few here who does not want a playoff...:biggrin:
 
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MightbeaBuck said:
Off the cuff = UCLA is the PAC 10 champ + holds the tie-breaker.
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It is not that cut and dry in the PAC 10...Figure this out...There is no guarentee UCLA gets the auto-bid with a win...And after reading this, I don't know who would get the bid if UCLA springs the upset...

When three or more teams are tied in the loss-tie column in Conference play, if one has defeated all others, it shall be the Rose Bowl representative. If that is not the case, a team defeated by all other tied teams shall be eliminated. If one team has not defeated the others, the point formula shall be computed. Only the top two teams on the point system shall thereafter be considered. If a tie for the second position occurs upon application of the point formula, the second team shall be the winner of the game between the tied teams, or, if the teams did not play each other or played a tie game, the team which has not played in the Rose Bowl for the longest period of time shall be the second team. If more than two teams remain tied after computing the point formula, the team most recently appearing in the Rose Bowl shall be eliminated and the appropriate two-team or multiple tie-breaking procedures are then applied to the remaining teams.
If the remaining two teams played one another, the winner shall be the representative. If they tied or did not play one another, the team with the highest point total for all games shall be the Rose Bowl representative. If a tie remains, the team most recently appearing in the Rose Bowl shall be eliminated.
C) Ineligible Teams. Teams ineligible to participate in the Rose Bowl shall not be included in the tie-breaking formula.
D) Games in Hawaii, Alaska. Games in Alaska or Hawaii shall not be counted in the point system if they are “12th games” permitted under NCAA legislation.
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http://boifromtroy.com/?p=4808
 
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jwinslow said:
If ND becomes a near lock for the BCS by losing to SC, I can only imagine what these wild voters would do if they beat SC. I could see them jumping up to 4 above OSU... and then getting into the BCS.
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ND is a near lock for the BCS because they are ND. UCLA is not ND so therefore they will not move up very far for beating USC. I don't see them jumping past #8 in the polls, which will keep them far from the BCS picture.
 
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ND's loss to MSU is not held against them. Miami's loss to the reeling FSU program did not hurt that much. I realize those two teams command more bias than UCLA... however I think UCLA's loss to zona could be overlooked if they did the impossible and beat the unbeatable trojans.

Do I think they should be in the BCS? Nope. But if 1-loss Oregon can possibly get in before OSU without beating anyone, I think a 1-loss Bruin squad can get in by beating USC.

edit: Am I sure they will get in? definitely not. I just think its quite possible.
 
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ScArLeT_bUcK said:
this was classic:

"UO beat ASU, ASU beat NU, NU beat Wisconsin, Wisconsin beat Michigan, Michigan beat PSU, PSU beat OSU. Therefore I think UO is more deserving of the bid."

i love victory chain reasoning... it's so... stupid :biggrin:
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Even by the bottom-scraping standards of victory-chain reasoning this is laugh-out-loud silly. We beat the 2nd and 4th links in the chain. Never was there a victory chain argument that so clearly showed the folly of victory chain arguments.
 
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jwinslow said:
ND's loss to MSU is not held against them. Miami's loss to the reeling FSU program did not hurt that much.

I think UCLA's loss to zona could be overlooked if they did the impossible and beat the unbeatable trojans.

Do I think they should be in the BCS? Nope. But if 1-loss Oregon can possibly get in before OSU without beating anyone, I think a 1-loss Bruin squad can get in by beating USC.
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Seriously, if this is your reasoning, do your credibility a favor and stop advancing it.
 
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jwinslow said:
ND's loss to MSU is not held against them. Miami's loss to the reeling FSU program did not hurt that much. I realize those two teams command more bias than UCLA... however I think UCLA's loss to zona could be overlooked if they did the impossible and beat the unbeatable trojans.

Do I think they should be in the BCS? Nope. But if 1-loss Oregon can possibly get in before OSU without beating anyone, I think a 1-loss Bruin squad can get in by beating USC.

edit: Am I sure they will get in? definitely not. I just think its quite possible.
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Josh, tell me what you see when you look at this picture:
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If Texas wins OSU goes to a BCS game.
 
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so you don't think UCLA can end up anywhere near Oregon's ranking? that has been enough to warrant bcs talk for them.
Josh, tell me what you see when you look at this picture:
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I'm not saying this as a terrified fan, just trying to debate what could happen. UCLA played OU (who was probably top-3 when scheduled), and will have beaten USC in this hypothetical. I fail to see how that doesn't trump Oregon's resume.
 
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