PrincetonBuckeye
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IMHO...if Ted was in a CB and a safety may have been spying him which would have opened up Gonzo and Robskie more....
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TheyCallMeAssassin
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HilliardG8r;711659; said:
Bitterness about what?
I am fine with the OSU loss. OSU is the better team.
I am fine with the USC loss. I knew that UM had no chance in that game.
I wish that the voters had put the two best teams in the National Championship game, but I am not bitter about it.
I don't admire what Florida did because they didn't do anything. They did what Louisville and Wisconsin did. Whoopee.
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buckeyeboy
Still fortitudinous
BigWhite;711674; said:
...our offense struggles. More b/c we'll also be losing TS, though. Not to mention possibly also losing Pittman and Gonzo.
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WhoDeyForever
@KOBuckeye
Yup! We got a big game tomorrow against WisconsinMondayAMGenius;711646; said:
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PrincetonBuckeye
The eyes of Texas are upon you!
how is that a question????
if ted doesn't come back you change your game plan.....how long have you watched football???
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OSU Rob
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my opinion on what went wrong:
1. gave them a short field 3 times in the first half (dumb personal foul penalties, troy's fumble inside his own 10...), and they scored a TD every time
2. our o-line got whipped all night long by their d-line. troy was under pressure right from the beginning, and it was clear from the start that we weren't gonna be able to abuse their db's like the slow michigan db's last game
3. zone defense all day long- how did LSU hold florida to 23 points? aggressive bump and run man coverage that forced Leak into pressured throws. you can't let Leak, who's a good student of the game, time to just dink and dunk the ball, with our db's playing like 8 yards off the line.
4. we abandoned the run game- it's 21-14, and we get a defensive stop finally, and what do we do? 3 straight passes and we punt it right back. get at least a couple first downs in this situation to reverse field position.
5. teddy's injury- it wouldn't have made up for the 41-14 differential, so don't blame the loss on this, but probably given us another TD or two just because defenses DO have to account for him unlike our other WRs. However, it was pretty obvious that we didn't have the ability to exploit the WR on linebacker matchups b/c florida was in nickel, and still getting plenty of pressure on Troy.
1. gave them a short field 3 times in the first half (dumb personal foul penalties, troy's fumble inside his own 10...), and they scored a TD every time
2. our o-line got whipped all night long by their d-line. troy was under pressure right from the beginning, and it was clear from the start that we weren't gonna be able to abuse their db's like the slow michigan db's last game
3. zone defense all day long- how did LSU hold florida to 23 points? aggressive bump and run man coverage that forced Leak into pressured throws. you can't let Leak, who's a good student of the game, time to just dink and dunk the ball, with our db's playing like 8 yards off the line.
4. we abandoned the run game- it's 21-14, and we get a defensive stop finally, and what do we do? 3 straight passes and we punt it right back. get at least a couple first downs in this situation to reverse field position.
5. teddy's injury- it wouldn't have made up for the 41-14 differential, so don't blame the loss on this, but probably given us another TD or two just because defenses DO have to account for him unlike our other WRs. However, it was pretty obvious that we didn't have the ability to exploit the WR on linebacker matchups b/c florida was in nickel, and still getting plenty of pressure on Troy.
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OHSportsFan
Fan of Ohio Sports in Indy
That Florida Offense looked like it hadn't all season. I can't believe they got 41 points. Everytime I saw them this season they were turning it over or stalling or just simply not looking good at all. Then tonight, they were absolutely flawless. The playcalling was some of the best I've ever seen. I had no idea what to expect on every offensive play from them (well, as the game went on I expected that it would result in a 7-15 yard gain :(). Not sure what all the change was, but I'm just baffled at how they got 41 points, but mad frickin' props to their whole team for the effort.
OSU looked like they didn't do much with the 51 days off.
National Championships just don't happen that easy. Took a tough loss like this to make me see this clearly, but now I do. I was only 13 when we won in '02, and I thought "oh here we are again, ready to get out 2nd one" just like that. Nope, not that easy. I will definently cherish both the past ones the University has gotten and any future oppurtunites I am lucky enough to witness in my lifetime.
OSU looked like they didn't do much with the 51 days off.
National Championships just don't happen that easy. Took a tough loss like this to make me see this clearly, but now I do. I was only 13 when we won in '02, and I thought "oh here we are again, ready to get out 2nd one" just like that. Nope, not that easy. I will definently cherish both the past ones the University has gotten and any future oppurtunites I am lucky enough to witness in my lifetime.
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buckeyeboy
Still fortitudinous
OHSportsFan9;711687; said:
Unfortunately, I think that's the toughest part to deal with (at least for the fans). It's so difficult to go through a season undefeated -- you must have great talent, great coaching, and luck (only one of which we had tonight--the talent). Every little thing has to go right, which is probably why it was 1968 to 2002 between our last NCs.
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BrutusBobcat
Icon and Entertainer
How about this: What went right?
*crickets chirping*
Not to go all Bucknuts here, but that was just awful. Shades of Iowa in 2004 awful. Did anyone even recognize that team? After the Rose Bowl, I was accusing scUM of quitting and being soft. Hell, they looked like they were coached by Patton compared to what we saw tonight.
Maybe neither team had any emotion left after The Game this year. Neither one looked like they even cared much in either game.
So much for all of that talk about the "greatest OSU team ever". I'm also now 100% in favor of giving the Heisman and other post-season awards out after the bowls. It would spare us the spectacle of Heisman winners Jason White-ing their final game.
*crickets chirping*
Not to go all Bucknuts here, but that was just awful. Shades of Iowa in 2004 awful. Did anyone even recognize that team? After the Rose Bowl, I was accusing scUM of quitting and being soft. Hell, they looked like they were coached by Patton compared to what we saw tonight.
Maybe neither team had any emotion left after The Game this year. Neither one looked like they even cared much in either game.
So much for all of that talk about the "greatest OSU team ever". I'm also now 100% in favor of giving the Heisman and other post-season awards out after the bowls. It would spare us the spectacle of Heisman winners Jason White-ing their final game.
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BuckIStallion
Senior
My quick takes:
1. Bad preparation/adjustment on offense
Our coaching staff did not employ the right offense against an athletic defensive front of Florida. Agreed that Ginn being out hurt the empty formation's effectiveness but the better way to counter a speedy but underweight defensive front line would be to persist with the running game. When we saw Pitt break a couple on the TD drive, we should have gotten the hint. But what do we do when we get the ball back down 21-14? We go empty set and pass.
2. Complete failure to adjust in game on defense
Sure, the D showed up a bit in early 3rd quarter but we should have figured out by their second drive that their plan was to have the ball leave Leak's hands in 3 seconds or less. If you are losing fore sure by a thousand cuts, is it not better to man-up and pressure the QB even at the risk of giving up a big play?
3. The sense of entitlement
This is not necessarily JT or the coaching staff's fault. This is the "we just need to show up to win" syndrome that every media favorite team faces. Our OL and DL especially did not look motivated. Once you lose in the trenches, it doesn't matter what the skill players do because they ain't getting the ball when the QB is running for his life. There is no remedy for this unfortunately.
The one thing that I hope Tressel learns from this debacle is the need to make fast, in-game adjustments. Until now, Tressel's modus operandi has been to come up with a better game plan during the week and persist with it with the knowledge that the other team will crumble under the pressure of our execution. Well, that works most of the time but there are occasions when you find yourself outplanned. The great coaches are nimble enough to roll with the punches. JT was not tonight.
Good night!
1. Bad preparation/adjustment on offense
Our coaching staff did not employ the right offense against an athletic defensive front of Florida. Agreed that Ginn being out hurt the empty formation's effectiveness but the better way to counter a speedy but underweight defensive front line would be to persist with the running game. When we saw Pitt break a couple on the TD drive, we should have gotten the hint. But what do we do when we get the ball back down 21-14? We go empty set and pass.
2. Complete failure to adjust in game on defense
Sure, the D showed up a bit in early 3rd quarter but we should have figured out by their second drive that their plan was to have the ball leave Leak's hands in 3 seconds or less. If you are losing fore sure by a thousand cuts, is it not better to man-up and pressure the QB even at the risk of giving up a big play?
3. The sense of entitlement
This is not necessarily JT or the coaching staff's fault. This is the "we just need to show up to win" syndrome that every media favorite team faces. Our OL and DL especially did not look motivated. Once you lose in the trenches, it doesn't matter what the skill players do because they ain't getting the ball when the QB is running for his life. There is no remedy for this unfortunately.
The one thing that I hope Tressel learns from this debacle is the need to make fast, in-game adjustments. Until now, Tressel's modus operandi has been to come up with a better game plan during the week and persist with it with the knowledge that the other team will crumble under the pressure of our execution. Well, that works most of the time but there are occasions when you find yourself outplanned. The great coaches are nimble enough to roll with the punches. JT was not tonight.
Good night!
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Well the offense was certainly terrible tonight, but I felt most of the season that this defense, though very talented, lacked that certain "it" factor that teams like the 2002 D had. The last 2 games kind of showed that, but the offense was stellar against UM, but terrible tonight.
Oh well, we're bound to lose one sooner or later. This is actually the best way...no blaming the refs, no "if this had only happened", no bad bounce to look back at forever...we got it handed to us, and that's all there is to it. Florida was very good tonight, and we were not.
Oh well, we're bound to lose one sooner or later. This is actually the best way...no blaming the refs, no "if this had only happened", no bad bounce to look back at forever...we got it handed to us, and that's all there is to it. Florida was very good tonight, and we were not.
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MrCodeDude
All-American
What happened, here's what happened:
Florida 3rd Down Efficiency: 10/19
Ohio State 3rd Down Efficiency: 1 / 9
The last two minutes of the first half also killed us, it went from a 10 point deficit to a 20 point deficit.
Florida 3rd Down Efficiency: 10/19
Ohio State 3rd Down Efficiency: 1 / 9
The last two minutes of the first half also killed us, it went from a 10 point deficit to a 20 point deficit.
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