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Barry Bonds (Juiced Merge)

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Last night, San Francisco vs San Diego, top of the second, Clay Hensley pitches to Barry Bonds, Bonds swings, and he hits home run number 755.

Which player of the two (Bonds or Hensley) defininately used steriods, actually tested positive for them, and was suspended from baseball for 15 games?

Kind of ironic, it was Hensley. :bonk:

"In April 2005, Hensley was one of four Padres farmhands who were suspended for 15 games for using performance-enhancing substances, either steroids or steroid precursors."

Entire article: SI.com - Hensley, who gave up No. 755 to Bonds, had minor league steroid suspension
 
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westbrock;896058; said:
That's fine, but if you blame baseball, you have to blame Bonds too. It's an individual choice more than an MLB choice. Bonds will probably have to pay for his steroid use with his future health. I was a Bonds fan until it became apparent that he was on roids. You can't tell me that he didn't realize that his head was growing (physically) and that his body bulked up that much in one year (2000 - 2001) all from non-steroid means.

It's rediculous that you congratulate someone for doing permanent damage to his body and spoiling nationally hallowed records because baseball acquiesed. It's not the tradition's fault that they didn't crack down sooner.
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:banger::cheers: well said
 
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westbrock;896058; said:
That's fine, but if you blame baseball, you have to blame Bonds too. It's an individual choice more than an MLB choice. Bonds will probably have to pay for his steroid use with his future health. I was a Bonds fan until it became apparent that he was on roids. You can't tell me that he didn't realize that his head was growing (physically) and that his body bulked up that much in one year (2000 - 2001) all from non-steroid means.

It's rediculous that you congratulate someone for doing permanent damage to his body and spoiling nationally hallowed records because baseball acquiesed. It's not the tradition's fault that they didn't crack down sooner.
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It's one of the un(der)told stories in sports that plenty of athletes pay for their career success with their future health. How is it ridiculous for me to congratulate Bonds for sacrificing his body? Consider the NFL. Players are most respected for getting themselves on the field no matter how injured. What do you think that involves? It's not just sucking it up. It's taking a shot that, week after week, is going to catch up to you eventually.

Of course it was an individual choice by Bonds, as it was for many baseball players. Baseball is just like cycling. Cycling is paying the price, and its time for baseball to do the same.

Hallowed records? It's pointless anyway. Today's players are bigger, stronger, faster, and better in every major sport. Science is more involved from earlier in the athlete's childhood. Not only are sports opened up to more groups in the US, but also the entire world. The landscape is much different.
 
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westbrock;896058; said:
That's fine, but if you blame baseball, you have to blame Bonds too. It's an individual choice more than an MLB choice. Bonds will probably have to pay for his steroid use with his future health. I was a Bonds fan until it became apparent that he was on roids. You can't tell me that he didn't realize that his head was growing (physically) and that his body bulked up that much in one year (2000 - 2001) all from non-steroid means.

It's rediculous that you congratulate someone for doing permanent damage to his body and spoiling nationally hallowed records because baseball acquiesed. It's not the tradition's fault that they didn't crack down sooner.
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no one is saying Bonds is blameless. It isn't ridiculous to celebrate a record that you say was unfairly earned, it is ridiculous to put that much stock in the baseball record book. People have been cheating for years, get over it.......
 
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The Man;897298; said:
no one is saying Bonds is blameless. It isn't ridiculous to celebrate a record that you say was unfairly earned, it is ridiculous to put that much stock in the baseball record book. People have been cheating for years, get over it.......
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Being a professional ball player no matter the sport with taking roids should only make you better just like Bonds did and many others. That is what they are getting paid for to be damm good at what sport they are in. Who is to say back in the day athletes didn't take performance enhancing drugs to make them perform better, who knows if they did or didn't.
i am not condoning roids I'm just saying.
 
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CCI;897301; said:
Being a professional ball player no matter the sport with taking roids should only make you better just like Bonds did and many others. That is what they are getting paid for to be damm good at what sport they are in. Who is to say back in the day athletes didn't take performance enhancing drugs to make them perform better, who know they did or didn't.
i am not condoning roids I'm just saying.
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they did, they popped "greenies"/stimulants.....
 
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BALCO 255
Bonds 500
Aaron 755
Sadaharu Oh 868

Bonds wasn't forced to cheat and his constant "it was flaxseed oil" excuses are hilarious but pathetic. I'll be sure to try the "everyone else speeds" excuse the next time I get pulled over. I'm so sure it'll work too :wink2: . Thanks to Bonds, this record has a big fat * next to it, at least until ARod breaks it in 2012/2013 or so. Hank Aaron distancing himself from Bonds achievement should speak volumes to everyone.

Not that I care all that much (baseball has kinda faded for me personally in the past decade partly due to this subject and partly due to becoming more and more interested in NCAA and NFL football), but the steroid era is the fault of the owners, the players and Selig and has tainted 2 entire decades of on-field performance. Way to go guys....
 
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The Man;897312; said:
good reply, you obviously know what you are talking about.....
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Yeah you obviously did too, by saying that someone like Hank Aaron, known by just about every source as the epitomy of class and respect, is a bitter man and lacks class just illustrates it.... :slappy:
 
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BuckeyeMike80;897313; said:
Yeah you obviously did too, by saying that someone like Hank Aaron, known by just about every source as the epitomy of class and respect, is a bitter man and lacks class just illustrates it.... :slappy:
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that is why I said "in this case". He is acting like a spoiled child regarding his precious record being broke. Barry Bonds is a better all-around player than Aaron ever was, steroids or not. Few baseball people would dispute that.
 
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Calling Hank Aaron bitter and lacking class is hilarious. He doesn't want to associate himself with a tainted record and he has every right to do so. Like Mike said, Aaron is by all accounts one of the finest living legends in all of sports. And no I'm not limiting the "tainted" category to Bonds. Any record set since the 90's is suspect in my mind. Huh huh...I said "taint".
 
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