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B10 wants to ban freshmen from playing

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Bucky32 said:
This rule will not help that cause. Kids will choose to go overseas rather than waste away a year sitting on the bench at a school.

Edit to say that not ALL players will opt for the overseas route, as that's quite an undertaking, but I could see some of the elite ones doing that.
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The NCAA would be fine with that. They just don't want them coming in for one semester, blowing off academics while they bide their time for the draft. I mean, plenty of players don't really care about school. The one-and-dones don't even pretend though. That apparently gets some people's goat so bad that they'd be willing to blow up a year of eligibility for hundreds of players who thrive as freshmen off the field (and sometimes on).
 
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jlb1705 said:
The NCAA would be fine with that. They just don't want them coming in for one semester, blowing off academics while they bide their time for the draft. I mean, plenty of players don't really care about school. The one-and-dones don't even pretend though. That apparently gets some people's goat so bad that they'd be willing to blow up a year of eligibility for hundreds of players who thrive as freshmen off the field (and sometimes on).
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How does this really change anything though? They're still only gonna be on campus for one year. It's not like they're going to be getting their degree all of a sudden. Instead, the NCAA would be making them sit there for a year under the pretense of "academics" and then they'll bolt for the NBA anyway.

The best option is still to allow high schoolers to jump directly to the pros IMO, because then at least you know the players who are in college want to be there and recognize they need to improve their game. But that ball is in the NBA's court.
 
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IF all the big conferences are on board - ok.

Otherwise, this is basically the end of the B1G as a major conference in football and basketball. The ACC/Big12/SEC/PAC12 will absolutely dominate every aspect of recruiting.
 
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Bucky32 said:
How does this really change anything though? They're still only gonna be on campus for one year. It's not like they're going to be getting their degree all of a sudden. Instead, the NCAA would be making them sit there for a year under the pretense of "academics" and then they'll bolt for the NBA anyway.

The best option is still to allow high schoolers to jump directly to the pros IMO, because then at least you know the players who are in college want to be there and recognize they need to improve their game. But that ball is in the NBA's court.
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How does it not change things? To paraphrase King Dolodale, they ain't coming to play school. It's not like potential one-and-dones are going to enroll in classes for a year for funsies and not play any ball. The desired goal of this kind of rule is not to make those guys sit. It's to make them not show up in the first place.

I agree that basketball players should be able to go pro out of high school. The NBA teams that were drafting those players didn't want to be in the business of teaching those kids how to be adults, and so they put the one-year embargo in the CBA. The NBA passed the buck on that, and this idea is college basketball's way of passing the buck back.
 
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Bucky32 said:
This rule will not help that cause. Kids will choose to go overseas rather than waste away a year sitting on the bench at a school.

Edit to say that not ALL players will opt for the overseas route, as that's quite an undertaking, but I could see some of the elite ones doing that.
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I'm surprised that it isn't already happening. For the kids who might have skipped college altogether, if it weren't for the rule that they have to go to college for a year, I guess I don't see a reason NOT to go overseas (or does Canada have a pro league?) to get paid for a year, rather than stay home and not get paid. Maybe they think it hurts their draft status, if they play for a year in a city or country that most American's can't spell or find on a map, much less be seen on TV ever. Are they even elligible for the draft at that point?
 
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Zurp said:
I'm surprised that it isn't already happening. For the kids who might have skipped college altogether, if it weren't for the rule that they have to go to college for a year, I guess I don't see a reason NOT to go overseas (or does Canada have a pro league?) to get paid for a year, rather than stay home and not get paid. Maybe they think it hurts their draft status, if they play for a year in a city or country that most American's can't spell or find on a map, much less be seen on TV ever. Are they even elligible for the draft at that point?
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I'm sure the comfort and familiarity of home is a big plus. But if you take away their opportunity to see game action right away, that might tip the scales and send some guys overseas.

I think the NCAA is drastically underestimating the legitimacy of international leagues here. The competition is actually pretty decent, and a halfway-good player can earn NBA money. Watch Emmanuel Mudiay be a top 5 pick next year and now you've got a case study to point to.
 
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You could take a scholarship away from Capaletti for each kid who fails to pass more than 24 credit hours in college level course work within nine months of graduation from high school, i.e. no credit for passing bonehead English or bonehead math. 90 level courses where I work - 100 level being freshman level courses. That would put Cap with recruiting classes of 1 and 2 in no time. He could bring kids in for summer school - not a bad idea anyway - this was something OSU did back in open enrollment days to try and get rid of kids who didn't want to be there and didn't have the GPA or test scores to waste a dorm room on.

Don't know how it would affect football - it removes the redshirt - and means you're only going to get two years out of your five-star recruits and phenoms.
 
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There's no way that the B1G will unilaterally disarm. If it's an NCAA wide rule, I'm fine with it. It was the rule right up until Archie's freshman class, and college sports survived just fine. Then again, I'm in favor of true minor leagues that would cause many kids to never come to college at all.
 
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I think the NCAA is at the mercy of the NFL and the NBA; especially the NBA. The stated "one and I'm done" kids, Greg Oden, Oakafer and the Calipari UK teams have put schools into a difficult to defend position.

Could it be that just as baseball has gone to Latin America because players and player development are/is cheaper, the NBA has reached down into the undergrad levels for cheaper labor than available among experienced players?
 
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