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Arizona State Sun Devils (official thread)

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jimotis4heisman;1218602; said:
look at it this way we have recently played or have the following teams on our schedule.

usc
texas
tenn
oklahoma
miami fl
va tech

all home and home. ill take that against anyone in the countrys ooc scheduling kahonies
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cupcakes
(whoa the pic was huge)
 
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jimotis4heisman;1218600; said:
12) watch hockey, lots of hockey. dont complain when i say something bad about the yotes. granted im a huge peter mueller fan, i wish the jackets could have landed him, great whl player for the everett silvertips. ill be interested to see how oj mixes in phx and see how turris does with the big boys...

when in doubt talk hockey, or high jack a thread. one of the two...
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Or both, if you dare.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wk_wuWmJRs&feature=related]YouTube - Rick Nash 1/17/08 amazing goal vs. Phoenix[/ame]
 
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reagdog;1218562; said:
Here is my point - explained very simply for you:
I believe ASU faced tougher competition than tOSU did!!!!
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One major hole in that argument is that ASU plays in the Pac-10.

Bowl eligible teams in the Big Ten: 10

Bowl eligible teams in the Pac-10: 6

Take away one from the B10, due to the extra team, and it's still %50 more than the P10. ASU didn't play anyone notable in their OOC games (bowl excluded). Neither did OSU, but the B10 schedule was tougher.

I have no problem with ASU. I rooted for them against USC, and will when you play UGA. I just think your assertation that ASU's schedule was considerably tougher is off-base.
 
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reagdog;1218672; said:
College Football Ratings Page

scroll down to toughest schedules for conferences

Big 10 isn't tougher than Pac 10
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That's the common perception these days. I'm sure much of that has to do with the last two NC games. The Sagarin ratings are presented as being based in raw numbers, but there are too many instances where it's findings are just ludicrous.

Kansas was the #2 team last year? There were 73 teams with a higher SOS. In the regular season, they only played three BCS conference schools with winning records (two were 7-6), they lost to the only one with > 8 wins (Mizzou).

USC's ranked #4, despite losing to the #70th ranked team, and having another loss? Quick comparison: #4 USC losses: #8 ORE, #70 Stan, avg rank of losses: 39; #10 OSU losses: #1 LSU, #30 ILL; avg rank of losses: 15.5.

Assigning arbitrary values to stats, and then plugging them into a computer just doesn't work, when analyzing college football. I like Sagarin more for basketball, where there are more applicable stats, and a larger base of games played. When applied to football, the numbers just seem to get more absurd when you dig deeper.

The Pac-10 did have and above average year in 07, by their standards. OU and ASU's seasons gave a bump to a conference that has not had a strong 2-5 range since UCLA and UW have dropped off in the last few years. Most conference rankings have Pac-10 and Big Ten floating between #3-4. I think the better gauges are based on results: Bowl eligible teams: B10: 10, P10: 6; Teams with .500 or better records: B10: 10, P10: 5; Avg. wins per team: B10: 6.36, P10: 5.2.
 
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Like you said, there are too many ways to skew the numbers. The way you view things, the Big 10 has the advantage, but you are leaving out key information such as strength of opponents. The Big 10 can play cupcakes and have a better win % because the Pac-10 played tougher opponents. I'm not saying that is the case, but these numbers aren't as black and white as you make them seem.
 
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