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Anyone capable of discussing gas without politics? Anyone?

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Or maybe, just maybe--- we should take time to seriously think about alternative fuel sources; increased public transportation; fuel conservation; decreased dependence on foreign oil conglomerates.

If we choose to drive fuel-hog vehicles (as I do) we really should not complain that gas prices are going up. It sucks!!! Yes it does. But that is the price we pay. Americans pay so much less than other countries, I think we are just starting to understand the value of the aforementioned concerns.

Lastly, I think gas prices are controlled less by 'old money' Americans trying to get rich off of us as it is OPEC, Venezuela's crazy leader, and other oil barons around the world who are lining their pockets by tightly restricting oil flow.
Conservation and alternative fuels... Yeah, that was a good idea back when I mentioned it in the good ole days of $2.50/gallon gas. It was a good idea ten years ago. The time for that talk has passed. Now it's time for some guerilla capitalism by the American public. There won't be any change with respect in to the energy situation in this country until consumers start to shake things up. This goes way beyond carpooling and stuff like that. It even goes beyond buying smaller cars.

You're right - if you drive a Suburban or an H2 or something like that - you have no reason to bitch. I drive a Cavalier though, and I'm PISSED OFF.

I never meant to imply that "old money" controls gas prices. When I brought up "old money", that was only because that's the best way to get shit done in this country. Joe Schmoe can hardly get shit changed in this country when something's wrong. If enough rich people get pissed off though, you can be the farm that something will be done about it.

Another thing: Why don't we have cars that allow you to select a speed range in cruise control, and then have the car travel at the most fuel-efficient speed within that range?

I mean, we can build a car with a fucking movie theater inside it, but we can't get a little assistance in driving in an efficient manner? They have to be able to make that happen.
 
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Sooner or later this has to kill the economy. At my summer job, my bosses were getting very upset at fueling costs when it was only 2.50. If gas continues to stay this high, I would not be surprised at all to see small businesses really starting to struggle (and sadly, probably even fold) because of the fuel prices.
 
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CCI, CNN had a report from an "expert" saying gas may spike as high as $4 per gallon before eventually coming back and settling somewhere under 3...

Experts: $4 a gallon gas coming soon
Pricing analysts say consumers can expect even higher prices at the pump

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Consumers can expect retail gas prices to rise to $4 a gallon soon, but whether they stay there depends on the long-term damage to oil facilities from Hurricane Katrina, oil and gas analysts said Wednesday.

<!--startclickprintexclude--><!--endclickprintexclude--> "There's no question gas will hit $4 a gallon," Ben Brockwell, director of pricing at the Oil Price Information Service, said. "The question is how high will it go and how long will it last?"

<!--startclickprintexclude--><!--endclickprintexclude--> <script language="JavaScript"> <!-- var clickExpire = "-1"; //--> </script> OPIS tracks wholesale and retail oil prices and provides pricing information for AAA's daily reports on fuel prices.

<!--startclickprintexclude--> <!--endclickprintexclude--> Brockwell said with gasoline prices now exceeding $3 a gallon before even reaching the wholesale level, it "doesn't take a genius" to expect retail prices to hit $4 a gallon soon.

<!--startclickprintexclude--><!--endclickprintexclude--> "Consumers haven't seen the worst of it yet," Brockwell said.

<!--startclickprintexclude--><!--endclickprintexclude--> He expects consumers in the Southeast and Northeast to be pinched first, following the impact of Hurricane Katrina on the Gulf Coast region.

<center>Katrina pressures gas supplies</center> <!--startclickprintexclude--><!--endclickprintexclude--> Katrina forced operators to close more than a tenth of the country's refining capacity and a quarter of its oil production, which sent gasoline prices surging.

<!--startclickprintexclude--><!--endclickprintexclude--> Two major pipelines that supply gasoline to key terminals and distribution centers within the eastern U.S. were shut down due to power outages caused by the storm. (Video of Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman discussing U.S. plans to tap strategic oil reserve to help refiners -- 4:16. Click here to watch.)

<!--startclickprintexclude--><!--endclickprintexclude--> Colonial Pipeline said it hopes to be back in partial operation soon, while the date of Plantation Pipeline's restart is not clear. Each day the pipelines are closed, supplies get backlogged and distribution centers must rely on reserves.

<!--startclickprintexclude--><!--endclickprintexclude--> "With this kind of hiccup in refinery capacity, in stretched markets like California, you could see over $4 a gallon in gas," Evan Smith, an analyst at U.S. Global Investors, told CNN/Money.

<!--startclickprintexclude--> <!--endclickprintexclude--> While it's still too early to fully assess the damage caused by Katrina, efforts to build up inventories of crude oil, natural gas and other products like gasoline will be set back by the storm, according to Nariman Behravesh, chief economist at Global Insight.

<!--startclickprintexclude--><!--endclickprintexclude--> In a research note, Behravesh laid out a worst-case scenario that puts average prices for regular unleaded gasoline at about $3.50 a gallon for the next four to six months.

<!--startclickprintexclude--><!--endclickprintexclude--> "The impact on consumer spending in such a scenario would be very dramatic, cutting the growth rate by as much as 3 percent and pushing real GDP growth in the fourth quarter closer to zero," he wrote.

<!--startclickprintexclude--><!--endclickprintexclude--> In a best-case scenario, he forecast retail pump prices to peak at $3 a gallon for a couple of months, but then fall back to around $2.50 by year-end.

<!--startclickprintexclude--> <!--endclickprintexclude--> The nationwide average price for a gallon of regular unleaded hit a fresh high of $2.619 Wednesday, according to AAA, the largest U.S. motorist organization, formerly known as the American Automobile Association.

<!--startclickprintexclude--><!--endclickprintexclude--> Average gasoline prices have gained 40 percent in the last year.

<!--startclickprintexclude--><!--endclickprintexclude--> Prices for crude oil are also up sharply and are currently hovering near record highs just under $70 a barrel.
 
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