Another reason why ESPN sucks

[Fungo Squiggly]

It's a more natural position for those kind of people.

What do you mean "those" kind of people?

 

[Muck]

Yeah, you're right. We'll just take it on faith that our school did nothing wrong. That's working really well lately.

Hey thanks for confabulating an entire argument & pretending that it has anything to do with what I said.

There's a vast gulf between burying one's hand in the sand regarding possible problems within the Ohio State AD & a random fan demanding he is entitled to ANSWERS!!!

 

[generaladm]

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[ScriptOhio]

The "E" in ESPN stands for entertainment. I'm sure that they script the sports news reports and/or their (so called) expert's comments for maximum entertainment/ratings value similiar to what the WWE does. The "E" in WWE also stands for entertainment. It's all about the money. ESPN is a "for profit" company owned by Disney:

The Walt Disney Co. said net income for the latest quarter jumped 40 percent from a year ago thanks to a huge boost from ESPN
"The Walt Disney Co. said net income for the latest quarter jumped 40 percent from a year ago thanks to a huge boost from ESPN. The Walt Disney Co. said net income for the latest quarter jumped 40 percent from a year ago thanks to a huge boost from ESPN."
http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2010/08/disney_third-quarter_profit_so.html

I never saw anywhere that they ever claimed to be an unbiased and accurate sports news reporting company. I'd put ESPN's favoritism and lack of objectivity in reporting sports news in about the same category as The Daily Show with Jon Stewart in reporting the national political news (i.e. a big fat hairy joke).

 

[buckeyebri]

I understand your point and frustration, but ESPN is not a public institution like Ohio State. Their records are not open to a public records request like Ohio State's are. On the other hand, one could file a lawsuit and in the course of discovery be entitled to damning documents regarding the "mother ship"

That said, there's no room for "fishing expeditions" (Not to say Lawyers don't try anyway. )

The funny/sad thing here is that ESPiN can sue OSU for information relative to Student/Athletes, yet I can't get my daughters grades from the college that she attends due to privacy laws. The same school that I pay for my daughter to be educated.

The double standard is beyond comprehension....

Also funny/sad is that I noticed Bucknuts has taken up the Boycott ESPiN theme.....where do they get their threads from.....

 

[ScriptOhio]

So ESPiN is suing OSU. You have to be kidding right. Not only have you totally [censored]ed off arguably the largest fan base in the country, now you want to sue that same University? I must have missed the business class where they taught this type of asininity.

It is time folks, at least for those of you who still watch, listen, subscribe or in anyway partake of the crap that ESPiN puts out to just say NO! We have the power folks.

JUST SAY NO to ESPiN!!!

The funny/sad thing here is that ESPiN can sue OSU for information relative to Student/Athletes, yet I can't get my daughters grades from the college that she attends due to privacy laws. The same school that I pay for my daughter to be educated.

The double standard is beyond comprehension....

Also funny/sad is that I noticed Bucknuts has taken up the Boycott ESPiN theme.....where do they get their threads from.....

First there is no double standard here. The school is refusing ESPN's request for information too; and I guess you could also sue the school for your daughter's records if you wanted to.

Secondly, I believe that this is just a frivolous "fishing expedition" by ESPN. They probably know they will ultimately lose the case; but it is still a win-win-win for them:

a. They actually created (yet another) negative story to report on Ohio State.

b. Makes some people (i.e. mostly Ohio State haters) will actually think ESPN knows there is more dirt to uncover about Ohio State (i.e. Ohio State is hiding something). When in fact they have absolutely no idea what is in the emails.

c. If they do win the case and get the emails, rest assured that there will be "blacked out" portions (i.e. student's names, etc.). They can always take quotes out of context and make it look much worse than it actually is. In addition, there is no downside for them if they lose the case. They get yet another negative story to report and they are not penalized in any way if they lose. Besides it didn't really cost them anyting either, their lawyers were probably already on their payroll anyway.

Just sayin' boycotting ESPN probably will never fly, especially when ESPN is the "only game in town" when televising an Ohio State football/basketball game or any other live event that you really want to watch. However, a boycott of their sponsers may be much more effective. If select ESPN advertiser's were bombarded with letters from irate Buckeye fans saying "As long as ESPN continues to unfairly bash Ohio State and you contine to supoport this action by paying them advertising dollars I will no longer buy your product(s)" and their sales actually drop in the Ohio State market areas somebody may actually take notice, etc.

:osu:

 

[buckeyebri]

First there is no double standard here. The school is refusing ESPN's request for information too; and I guess you could also sue the school for your daughter's records if you wanted to.

:osu:

Your right, poor choice of phrase....I was thinking more in terms of their audacity or self importance in thinking that they have any more right to a student's information than their own parent....

 

[buckeyegrad]

The funny/sad thing here is that ESPiN can sue OSU for information relative to Student/Athletes, yet I can't get my daughters grades from the college that she attends due to privacy laws. The same school that I pay for my daughter to be educated.

Working in higher education, I will tell you an inside secret about FERPA that most universities keep quiet. As a parent, if you can provide proof that your college student is still a dependent for federal tax purposes, you have the right to access your student's academic records--even without the student's waiver. Most universities have some type of request procedure (or at least they should) for the parents who want to take this step, but they will try to persuade you not to do it--and for good reason (e.g. damaging relationship between you and child, not treating your child like the adult she/he is, etc.). Most people are unaware of this as universities don't want parents interfering in their adult student's education, and the reality is most education practitioners (i.e. faculty and low-level administrators) are not aware of this caveat to the student's FERPA rights.

First there is no double standard here. The school is refusing ESPN's request for information too; and I guess you could also sue the school for your daughter's records if you wanted to.

Actually, there is no standing for FERPA violations, so one cannot sue a college or university for violating such rights. The only action that can be taken is to file a complaint with the Department of Education. The DOE will then conduct an investigation and determine the action against the school. The maximum penalty that can be taken against a school is the loss of receiving federal financial aid funds, but I am unaware of this action ever being taken.

 

[knapplc]

Just sayin' boycotting ESPN probably will never fly, especially when ESPN is the "only game in town" when televising an Ohio State football/basketball game or any other live event that you really want to watch. However, a boycott of their sponsers may be much more effective. If select ESPN advertiser's were bombarded with letters from irate Buckeye fans saying "As long as ESPN continues to unfairly bash Ohio State and you contine to supoport this action by paying them advertising dollars I will no longer buy your product(s)" and their sales actually drop in the Ohio State market areas somebody may actually take notice, etc.

That's a great point. I will not watch ESPN or affiliated programming out of principle, and I have not done so for many months, but when it comes to televising my school's games they have me by the short hairs. Much as I hate them, I'm going to watch my team.

The letters to the sponsors is a good idea, but we'd have to bombard them with letters, too many to ignore. The volume necessary could be difficult to achieve.

 

[Dryden]

The letters to the sponsors is a good idea, but we'd have to bombard them with letters, too many to ignore. The volume necessary could be difficult to achieve.

Between Nebraska's bot-programming ballot-stuffing experts, and Ohio State's angry letter writing contingent, I think if we join forces we can crash a few hundred mail servers around the country.