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buckeyeman06 said:
So I take it that the word "homo" is no longer allowed?
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Twentieth time's a charm?

vrbryant said:
The moderators and administrators have been selected with care and they are trusted to make good judgments concerning these issues. There have been, in the past, situations wherein there have been disagreements over whether warnings/bans have been necessary/warranted. They were dealt with. The system is fine, and will not change. If it seems to you that the sanctions aren't sufficiently 'cut and dry', then test the waters and see what happens. What I can promise you is that no one will be reprimanded without good cause. Again, for roughly the nineteenth time, this discussion is not the dawn of some new era in forum moderation. The word 'homo' is not being omitted from anyone's vocabulary. Very, very simply (hence the preschool teacher thing), all we are asking is for a small amount of attention to be paid by all posters to what they say and how it reflects on both themselves and the site as a whole.
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Just curious?

I don't post alot but I have been on this site daily ever since shortly after it was created. The question I have is this. When Clarity created this site he also created the rules for this site. It was his site to choose how he wanted it run. Its still his site and he still determins how it is to be run regardless of any of your opinions. If he says now that he wants to see a change in the rules then that should be enough. If its his site then its his rules.

I really have no opinion on the whole "homo" thing either way other than to say that some of you idiots can't seem to get that its not about the word "homo" but more about the way the word is being used, as a way to degrade another individual. If you tell a homo that hes a homo he looks at you and says "why yes I am" and he probably is not offended. If you are standing next to a homosexual and call your buddy a homo(who is obviously not a homo) then he see's that you use the word "homo" as a way of offending your freind then its obviously meant as offensive.

The bottom line seems to be this. Its Clarity's site. If he says it should be a certain way then thats how it should be, regardless of whether you agree or disagree.
 
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NorthernBuck said:
I don't post alot but I have been on this daily ever since shortly after it was created. The question I have is this. When Clarity created this site he also created the rules for this site. It was his site to choose how he wanted it run. Its still his site and he still determins how it is to be run regardless of any of your opinions. If he says now that he wants to see a change in the rules then that should be enough. If its his site then its his rules.

I really have no opinion on the whole "homo" thing either way other than to say that some of you idiots can't seem to get that its not about the word "homo" but more about the way the word is being used, as a way to degrade another individual. If you tell a homo that hes a homo he looks at you and says "why yes I am" and he probably is not offended. If you are standing next to a homosexual and call your buddy a homo(who is obviously not a homo) then he see's that you use the word "homo" as a way of offending your freind then its obviously meant as offensive.

The bottom line seems to be this. Its Clarity's site. If he says it should be a certain way then thats how it should be regardless of whether you agree or disagree.
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If you didn't read Northern's post, the first time... read it now.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
...You ever have to worry about a constitutional amendment banning fat people from getting married to other fat people?...
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Sorry, but I couldn't let this one stand (you know me :) ). What the proposed ammendment would do would be to clearly define existing marital practices. Since people presently cannot marry others of the same sex (except in Massachussetts) the ammendment would simply clarify that for people that are trying to do that sort of thing. In effect, it's the gay people that are trying to change or create new law that would allow them to marry others of the same sex. As it is, and as it would be under such an ammendment, gay people can marry other gay people, provided they marry a gay person that is of the opposite gender.

Now then, since I seem to be the only person that can admit to watching the show, I felt their remarks during the show were acceptable. First thing I'd like to point out, is that the remark made to a contestant that he should wear a dress and look more like a women, was probably a help to their career.

That person (who is not the one that's been pictured in this thread) had auditioned for the show in a previous season. The guy acted in a very effeminate manner, and continually chose to sing songs performed by female artists. So while people may not appreciate Simon's directness, he was actually doing the contestant a favor. That person clearly did not have the talent to be an american Idol. If he were to make a living singing, then his best chance would be to do so as a female impersonator.

Now then, as to the pictured contestant, initially knowing his gender was difficult. He dressed like a girl, had female mannerisms and hairstyle. His voice was very androgynous. In fact, he looked as though he had already undergone hormone treatments and appeared as though he might already be on a program towards getting a sex change.

Really though, anyone that watches the show realizes that the people that make the show, and are not talented, do so because of some sort of distinguishing trait that makes them unique or different than the others. It's also quite clear that many of the gay contestants that make the show do so because they are very OUT there. They all think they have rock star talent, are extremely flambouyant, and think that every person should love them because they are such wonderful and unique people. The problem is that they don't realize they often have little to no talent, and when they hear that from the judges they freak out, scream, and cry. Then they usually go and get hugs from their mommies and sisters. It looks as though their family members coddle them so much to protect them, that when they do encounter reality, it is very disturbing to them and they are unable to handle it.

If these people were serious contestants they would do things differently. They would pick gender appropriate songs. They would look, dress, and act in a gender appropriate manner. And most importantly, they would actually take singing lessons prior to auditioning. Look, I have little doubt that Clay Aiken is gay, yet he's still a star. He's not a star because his mommy tells him that he's a star or because he sings Whitney Houston songs... he's a star because he composes himself in a professional manner, dresses appropriately, sings appropriate songs, and let's his talent show for itself.
 
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BrutuStrength said:
Sorry, but I couldn't let this one stand (you know me :) ). What the proposed ammendment would do would be to clearly define existing marital practices. Since people presently cannot marry others of the same sex (except in Massachussetts) the ammendment would simply clarify that for people that are trying to do that sort of thing. In effect, it's the gay people that are trying to change or create new law that would allow them to marry others of the same sex. As it is, and as it would be under such an ammendment, gay people can marry other gay people, provided they marry a gay person that is of the opposite gender.

Now then, since I seem to be the only person that can admit to watching the show,
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That received a GPA, and seemed to be well written. But I had to stop reading at the point where I cut off the quote. :biggrin:
 
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