• New here? Register here now for access to all the forums, download game torrents, private messages, polls, Sportsbook, etc. Plus, stay connected and follow BP on Instagram @buckeyeplanet and Facebook.

All Big 10 teams announced

Jump to latest Follow Reply
Sort by date Sort by votes
MililaniBuckeye;1001006; said:
Too bad he didn't play mediocre on Nov 10th... :smash:
Click to expand...

agree - if Juice played against us the way he played against scUM under the lights, we would be headed to New Orleans right now.

However, as my wife's 90 year old grandmother likes to say, if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

I know this is blasphemy, but I am so pumped for Pasadena that New Orleans would just be icing on the etoufee.
 
Upvote 0
Okay, so 1st team QB isn't Boeckman. Better be someone worthwhile.

Kellen Lewis? Yeah, okay. I can live with that. Very underrated. But no, isn't him.

Juice Williams? Tough to swallow, but better than that guy from scUM. Isn't him.

Painter? He put up numbers. Isn't him.

Hoyer? He has made a lot of good strides this year. Isn't him.

Donovan? Guy had a great game against scUM. Isn't him though.

So, who is it? Excuse me, umm, Mr. 125.8 QB rating. Mr. 11-34 in THE GAME? Mr. 14 Touchdown Passes?

The award is as much of a joke as the guy who got it.
 
Upvote 0
daveeb;1001118; said:
Juice Williams? Tough to swallow, but better than that guy from scUM. Isn't him.
Click to expand...

Man you guys are making Juice Williams sound like Vince Young during his Texas days. The guy is a fucking awful QB who happened to have a good game. Check out some of these gems from Juice...

@Indiana: 13-28, 98 yards, 2 TD, 2 INT
@ Iowa: 9-15, 98 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT
Michigan: 8-14, 70 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT

On the year, Juice completed 56.3% of his passes and had 13 TD and 10 INT
On the year, Henne completed 57.3% of his passes and had 14 TD and 7 INT, despite being dinged up with a sore shoulder and a bum leg and missing 3 full games (ND and Minnesota being two of them) and chunks of others.

Bottom line is, I love Juice Williams for beating you guys, but the fact remains that he is a terrible QB whose backup needed to come in for numerous times this year due to poor performance. I didn't say Henne should be first team, but Williams is brutal.
 
Upvote 0
SNIPER26;1001132; said:
Man you guys are making Juice Williams sound like Vince Young during his Texas days. The guy is a fucking awful QB who happened to have a good game. Check out some of these gems from Juice...

@Indiana: 13-28, 98 yards, 2 TD, 2 INT
@ Iowa: 9-15, 98 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT
Michigan: 8-14, 70 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT

On the year, Juice completed 56.3% of his passes and had 13 TD and 10 INT
On the year, Henne completed 57.3% of his passes and had 14 TD and 7 INT, despite being dinged up with a sore shoulder and a bum leg and missing 3 full games (ND and Minnesota being two of them) and chunks of others.

Bottom line is, I love Juice Williams for beating you guys, but the fact remains that he is a terrible QB whose backup needed to come in for numerous times this year due to poor performance. I didn't say Henne should be first team, but Williams is brutal.
Click to expand...

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I have to agree with Sniper here. Juice had the game of his life against us. Maybe that will be his coming out party and he's turned the corner. But what I saw of him early on in the year was a guy who I thought all we had to do was stop the run and make Juice throw and they're done. Unfortunately he became superJuice in the OSU game.
 
Upvote 0
SNIPER26;1000948; said:
Just because Juice tore you guys apart doesn't mean he was very good on the year. His backup played a lot because of his performance.
Click to expand...
Agreed completely - he wasn't named, nor should he have been named to either 1st or 2nd team O.

Juice's performances at the end of this season are a blip - not a trend.
When he played OSU he had caught lightning in a bottle. The rest of the year, outside of playing up reasonably well against Mizzou, he was average to woeful.

As for the actual nominees. At minimum in the coaches Boeckman deserved 2nd-team status (I'm assuming coaches tend to vote for Seniors). Very puzzling.
 
Upvote 0
Illinois loses some key people this year and you may see Mendenhall go early. That will have an effect on the overall team for next season. They have some quality young players, but how soon will they step up?
I predict they will have the same record or worse next year. Worse if Juice gets beat up/injured because of his running.
 
Upvote 0
sandgk;1001189; said:
As for the actual nominees. At minimum in the coaches Boeckman deserved 2nd-team status (I'm assuming coaches tend to vote for Seniors). Very puzzling.
Click to expand...

I assume since Henne was the best QB (regarded as) coming into the season, they voted him the 1st teamer and as you said, seniors tend to get a lot of votes. IMO Boeckman should have been first team. He put up some Troy Smith-ian numbers
 
Upvote 0
SNIPER26;1001132; said:
Bottom line is, I love Juice Williams for beating you guys, but the fact remains that he is a terrible QB whose backup needed to come in for numerous times this year due to poor performance. I didn't say Henne should be first team, but Williams is brutal.
Click to expand...
Yeah, and while that is true, if you throw in his rushing statistics, he had a better year than Henne. If Henne had been healthy throughout the year, it would be a different story.

If I had to stack up the Big Ten QBs in order of best season, I'd go...

-Boeckman
-Lewis
-Hoyer
-Donovan
-Painter
-Williams
-Henne

Henne had been healthy, different story.
 
Upvote 0
I don't think that Henne is as bad as I'm reading on this thread. But he didn't out-perform Boeckman. You could argue that Boeckman didn't do anything the last 2 games of the season, and you'd be right. However, I don't think Henne did, either.

I think that if you trade Boeckman for Henne, Michigan is sitting there with 10 or more wins, and Ohio State has 9 or fewer. And I'm not saying that Henne was bad - he's actually a solid quarterback who I believe would start for 90% of Div-IA teams. But to say that he had a better season (despite being injured, and when his team won 8 games) than Boeckman did (whose team won 11 games) just tells me that these selections don't actually have much validity with me.
 
Upvote 0
I understand that Zook helped get the Illini to a winning record this year, but I have to admit that I'm surprised that Tressel doesn't get the nod as Coach of the Year. This was supposed to be rebuilding.

Anyway... I'll hold my homerisms for more important points.
 
Upvote 0
buckeyes_rock;1001162; said:
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I have to agree with Sniper here. Juice had the game of his life against us. Maybe that will be his coming out party and he's turned the corner. But what I saw of him early on in the year was a guy who I thought all we had to do was stop the run and make Juice throw and they're done. Unfortunately he became superJuice in the OSU game.
Click to expand...

It helps any quarterback when your receivers are 10-15 yards wide open in the middle of the field. Some of the busted coverages we had that day were pee-wee league...
 
Upvote 0
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top