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Accidental Racist by Brad Paisley and LL Cool J

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The people who are acting most offended by it were never going to be Brad Paisley fans anyway--but I'm sure he appreciates the extra pub for his new album! Maybe LL helps him finally get to #1 on the Billboard charts, not just the country one. C'mon, this is a guy who had a country hit celebrating Obama's election: he's a fun and optimistic songwriter with a lot of nuance. And a great guitarist.
 
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BUCKYLE;2327838; said:
Besides being a [Mark May]ty song, it's absurd. I should be able to wear a swastika to celebrate my German heritage without anyone being offended. :lol:

At it's worst, the rebel flag represents oppression. At it's best, it represents treason.
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I always think of The Dukes of Hazzard
 
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Here's a good article
Why Elitists Hate" the Brad Paisley/LL Cool J song "Accidental Racist."

According to novelist Will Shetterly (one of six commentators on the much-maligned recording):
The song?s first sin is it?s earnest. There?s no irony to please hipsters.

Its second sin is it?s about members of the U.S.?s racially and regionally divided working class, a southern white Lynyrd Skynyrd fan in a Confederate battle flag T-shirt and a northern black rapper in a do-rag, gold chains and sagging pants. This song wasn?t made for, by or about people who consider themselves the cultural elite, and elitists hate the idea of being irrelevant, especially in a discussion of an issue as important as race.

Its third sin is featuring a rap artist. Many elitists hate rap as much as they hate country, though they don?t like to admit it for fear of appearing racially insensitive....

Its last sin is its title -- "Accidental Racist" -- which reminds academic race theorists of a pet term, ?unintentional racism,? the racism practiced by people who don?t realize they?re racist. The song is about the opposite phenomenon, the assumptions of people who see racism where it isn?t present because they misunderstand the symbols of a different culture....​
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DubCoffman62;2327842; said:
Here's a good article
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The fuck it is. That article is fucking idiotic. I'm none of those things, yet I detest people not taking responsibility. You don't want to be a racist? Fuckin' a. Stop wearing their symbols. LL Cool J is a fucking moron, btw, and I like rap and country...well, better versions of both.
 
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BUCKYLE;2327854; said:
The [censored] it is. That article is [censored]ing idiotic. I'm none of those things, yet I detest people not taking responsibility. You don't want to be a racist? [censored]in' a. Stop wearing their symbols. LL Cool J is a [censored]ing moron, btw, and I like rap and country...well, better versions of both.
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The confederate flag represents much more than slavery. I too was once ignorant of this and said some kind of knee jerk crap to a southern and after being bitch slapped i got educated. Many countries were involved in the slave trade such as Great Britain but you don't hear people calling for the Union Jack to be banned or that it represents oppression, I don't think the swastica itself is offense but when skinheads and neo nazis use it to promote hate then yes it is.

As for LL Cool J I couldn't say I was a fan but at least he's a respectable man whose music didn't set the black community back 100 years like these fools nowadays. Lil Wayne had a song where he talks about a beating up a piece of pussy like it was Emmet Till yet you don't hear a peep about that.

I really think this controversy is much ado about nothing.
 
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DubCoffman62;2327863; said:
The confederate flag represents much more than slavery. I too was once ignorant of this and said some kind of knee jerk crap to a southern and after being bitch slapped i got educated. Many countries were involved in the slave trade such as Great Britain but you don't hear people calling for the Union Jack to be banned or that it represents oppression, I don't think the swastica itself is offense but when skinheads and neo nazis use it to promote hate then yes it is.

As for LL Cool J I couldn't say I was a fan but at least he's a respectable man whose music didn't set the black community back 100 years like these fools nowadays. Lil Wayne had a song where he talks about a beating up a piece of pussy like it was Emmet Till yet you don't hear a peep about that.

I really think this controversy is much ado about nothing.
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The confederate flag represents nothing more than racism, slavery, and treason. If a southerner told you otherwise, then they were very, very wrong as well. Southerners are notoriously ignorant when it comes to the Civil War.

As for the Union Jack, I don't recall the UK being formed purely for the continuation of slavery...
 
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Oh come on, Skynyrd was flying the flag back in the 70s, there have been generations of southern rock fans (merged into country over the decades) who have grown up listening to Free Bird without any historical sense of its symbolic appropriateness. At some point aren't we all allowed to get over the Civil War and recognize that young'uns just like to party? Or come on up to the Confederate officers' cemetery on Johnson's Island (on the Bay) sometime, a place where the Stars and Bars can still fly, and see that something that's a part of our national history has changed over time. Or maybe Brad Paisley just wants to have slaves again, I don't know.
 
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BayBuck;2327922; said:
Oh come on, Skynyrd was flying the flag back in the 70s, there have been generations of southern rock fans (merged into country over the decades) who have grown up listening to Free Bird without any historical sense of its symbolic appropriateness. At some point aren't we all allowed to get over the Civil War and recognize that young'uns just like to party? Or come on up to the Confederate officers' cemetery on Johnson's Island (on the Bay) sometime, a place where the Stars and Bars can still fly, and see that something that's a part of our national history has changed over time. Or maybe Brad Paisley just wants to have slaves again, I don't know.
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I actually like Brad Paisley. What I don't like is excusing racism. I'm a white, northern male. If I see you wearing a fucking rebel flag, we might be fighting.

The best thing to come out of this horse abortion of a song is the tweets after it's release.


http://m.rollingstone.com/?redirurl=/music/news/accidental-racist-the-funniest-tweets-20130410
 
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BayBuck;2327922; said:
Oh come on, Skynyrd was flying the flag back in the 70s, there have been generations of southern rock fans (merged into country over the decades) who have grown up listening to Free Bird without any historical sense of its symbolic appropriateness. At some point aren't we all allowed to get over the Civil War and recognize that young'uns just like to party? Or come on up to the Confederate officers' cemetery on Johnson's Island (on the Bay) sometime, a place where the Stars and Bars can still fly, and see that something that's a part of our national history has changed over time. Or maybe Brad Paisley just wants to have slaves again, I don't know.
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Slavery was a secondary issue of succession, they just wanted their own nation. Yes, slavery was wrong but the confederacy wasn't formed just to keep blackie down. After I had put my foot in my mouth over my ignorant remarks (if any of you ever go down to the deep south and are every around any true southerners, especially educated ones) don't talk shit about the rebel flag. You will be put in your place quickly.

I was surprised to find out that some blacks down south consider themselves proud southerners and fly the rebel flag. Us yankees just don't understand.
 
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DubCoffman62;2327993; said:
Slavery was a secondary issue of succession, they just wanted their own nation. Yes, slavery was wrong but the confederacy wasn't formed just to keep blackie down. After I had put my foot in my mouth over my ignorant remarks (if any of you ever go down to the deep south and are every around any true southerners, especially educated ones) don't talk shit about the rebel flag. You will be put in your place quickly.

I was surprised to find out that some blacks down south consider themselves proud southerners and fly the rebel flag. Us yankees just don't understand.
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Honkey please. I've been around plenty of true southerners. I was their boss. I told one grown ass good old boy to take his rebel flag shirt off or go the fuck home. He went home, changed his shirt, and came back and apologized. You may be smaller than me, but I've never been bitchslapped in my life.

The number of southern African Americans that sport the flag is so miniscule that frankly your point is horseshit.
 
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