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5 players suspended for 5 games in 2011 regular season (Appeal has been denied)

kc286496;1838619; said:
I would also like to thank you for sending me over to a Texas forum for another reason.

Can we talk about the couch-burning stigma that follows OSU fans around wherever we go? How did this happen? If you have a degree from tOSU and have ever burned a couch, please chime in. Please tell me what you could have possibly been thinking. From where did this furniture come? Why did you think you were so effing cool when you burned it?

Things you could have been doing besides burning furniture: trying to get laid, playing foosball, watching "Dazed & Confused", rolling a fatty, learning how to play guitar, quoting episodes of "The Simpsons", calling your mother--she misses you, yelling at Michigan fans, eating a gyro, manscaping, deep-frying zucchini, getting the dog high, bumming a smoke, giving your neighbor an "upper decker", stealing trophies from frat houses, passing out in the front yard, or listening to "Dark Side of the Moon". These are all perfectly acceptable college activities and are all way more fun than burning sh!t.

Thanks for making me introduce myself as, "Yeah, I'm a Buckeye fan but, don't worry, I went to OU."


As an alum of both... I can say that I never burned a couch at Ohio State, and I never rioted when the bars closed early while at OU.

Translation: It ain't exactly like OU doesn't have some things that we wished didn't happen.
 
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sandgk;1838763; said:
Trying to think ...

the-price-is-right-bob-barker.jpg


/sarcasm

So what you're saying is that Pryor has a black Corvette AND a red Corvette?
 
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I have no inside info on how all this will turn out. Nor do I know personally Dave Biddle, NevadaBuck, Herbie or anyone else involved in this current episode of 'possible wrongdoing'. I have no axe to grind with anyone involved -- whether their involvement is real or imagined.

However, I do know a little about journalism and the ethical standards on which the profession of journalism depends for its credibility. The purpose of this post is to discuss journalistic ethics as they apply to this tattoo story. If the ethics of all this doesn't interest you, stop reading here.

We all know that in America we have the right to say or write anything we choose ...almost. We can excoriate our political leaders, we can write gossip columns about celebrities going into rehab, we can preach the gospel from a soapbox on a street corner. But we can't scream "Fire!" in a crowded theater. That causes panic, which can lead to a stampede, where people get hurt -- seriously, physically hurt, perhaps even killed.

What Dave Biddle did earlier this week was pefectly ethical from a journalistic standpoint, at least technically. He stumbled upon a story that he knew would interest his readers and the national sports media; he got verification of the 'story' from two different un-named sources, who he claims are usually reliable; and he wrote the story up with enough earnest caveats to protect his hind-end. Sourced + confirmed + caveated = ethical (technically).

But the bone I have to pick with Biddle is this. It's December, the Sugar Bowl is just around the corner, the story is potentially very explosive -- as has been proved by the national attention the story has now received -- and Biddle knew all this perectly well when he decided to go public with this very, very thin 'story'.

Dave Biddle screamed "Fire!" in a crowded theater.

And the predictable panic of other 'journalists' [like Herbie] ensued, which led to the equally predictable stampede of 'reporting', the result of which, again predictably, has been that tOSU and some of its players have been hurt. Make no mistake, when the media cyclone hits, as it has here, the folks who are unlucky enough to be in the eye of the storm get hurt. Their reputations are tarnished. For some, the damage is not great and will fade over time. For others, the damage will leave an ugly, visible scar -- a tattoo of sorts -- that they'll have to suffer for years to come.

Of all people, Dave Biddle, who lived through the Clarett era and saw the damage unfounded accusations can cause, should know this! I have to assume that he did know, but went with the irresistible story anyway for the benefit of his career. I'll never think of him quite the same again.
Is your issue with when the story was broken? If so, that's not Biddle's job to protect the football program. Your bone would need to be picked with the idiots who decided to violate NCAA rules.....if that's what happened.
 
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Nutriaitch;1838778; said:
so the AD is going to talk about "rules violations" at noon.
should we read anything into him not calling them "allegations"?

This was something that Lori Schmidt and myself found very interesting. Smith could have said possible or allegations but instead said "ncaa rules violations" without the possible or "ncaa rule violation allegations". Add that to a line drop in vegas and I must say I'm nervous now.
 
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FritoBandito;1838776; said:
But the bone I have to pick with Biddle is this. It's December, the Sugar Bowl is just around the corner, the story is potentially very explosive -- as has been proved by the national attention the story has now received -- and Biddle knew all this perectly well when he decided to go public with this very, very thin 'story'.

Dave Biddle screamed "Fire!" in a crowded theater.

If I recall previous posts I read in this thread, BuckNuts was not the only outlet holding onto this story. Although I could be wrong.
 
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Nutriaitch;1838778; said:
so the AD is going to talk about "rules violations" at noon.
should we read anything into him not calling them "allegations"?

per the link listed
Smith to discuss violations
By TIM MAY
Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith has scheduled a noon session with the media to discuss possible NCAA rules violations.
The school's recent investigation into whether some members of the football team exchanged signed memorabilia for tattoos is likely to be the theme. Insiders have said for a couple of days several players might face suspension from the Sugar Bowl against Arkansas on Jan.4 and possible further sanctions for their roles in the affair.
 
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