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5 players suspended for 5 games in 2011 regular season (Appeal has been denied)

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exhawg;1858959; said:
We've had some defenses that are better than others, but I don't think we've had a bad defense in the JT era. A JT defense is the definition of reloading.
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JL coming in as a sophmore with a game and change under his belt and dominating Texas is proof of reloading.
 
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zincfinger;1858339; said:
Because those items weren't really the players' personal property in the normal sense. There were mutually agreed upon strings attached. They were allowed to keep those items as long as they didn't sell them during their collegiate playing careers. When they sold the items, they very likely kissed them goodbye, with no compensation to be had.
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Uh, no. Those items are indeed their personal property and were awarded with no pre-set conditions...the NCAA wasn't there to ovesee the presentation of the items, nor did they players have to agree to anything before they got the awards.

The NCAA isn't preventing the players from getting their property back, but rather are requiring them to relinquish what they earned from the sale of those items. Besides, the selling of those items were private transaction, outside the purview of the NCAA. So, if for some reason the buyers wanted to actually sell back or even return the items to the players, the NCAA could do jack squat about it.

Keep in mind that not only can the NCAA can impose punishment for selling things not normally available to the general student body (championship rings, gold pants, etc.), but also can punish for selling any other personal items for higher than "fair market value" (this keeps athletes from seeling their microwave oven to a booster for $5,000). No one is there to give warnings to players when they go buy a microwave oven.
 
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http://college-football-blog.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/27126539

Some love from CBSSportsline for the five.

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Obviously, it's terrific news for the Buckeyes, who with their Pryor-Herron-Posey "triplets" intact should be able to make a run at yet another Big Ten championship down the 2011 stretch. But it's also a huge rebuttal to the many, many critics of the NCAA's (and Tressel's) decision to allow the players to play in the bowl game. Much of that criticism was centered around the assumption that faced with the suspensions, many of the Buckeye Five would simply declare for the draft instead, thereby avoiding punishment altogether.

We know now that's not going to happen. Pryor, Posey and Herron will "do their time," so to speak. The NCAA's form of justice, whatever you think of it, will be served.

There are still valid reasons to criticize the NCAA and Tressel for allowing the Buckeye Five to take the field in New Orleans. But "they won't get punished at all" is no longer one of them, and as frequently as that charge was levied in December, more than a few critics owe the parties involved here a retraction.
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Oh8ch;1858936; said:
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Nice SEC loader.
 
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