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"24" The Show

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24 rules. I've heard others say that it has gone downhill since the first season, but I call bullshit. The first season was the best, but the rest of them were amazing as well. Best show on TV, bar none. Well, since Sopranos and Deadwood aren't new right now.
 
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jlb1705 said:
I started watching during Season 3, and I call bullshit too. I just saw all of Season 1 a few weeks back, and all I'm gonna ask is how many times the same people can get kidnapped in 24 hours?
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The same two people have not been kidnapped twice that I can think of?
Maybe Kim early on?
Jack is really the only person who has made it through all the seasons so far...
 
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I've only seen the first two episodes (the other two are on DVR) and I have to say I'm totally hooked. My roomate forced me to watch season one over break and it was possibly the best show I've seen on television. From many 24 fans I've heard this start is so far right there with season two and right behind the first.

I was appalled seeing Palmer die...
 
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I just received this email from a friend and thought it would generate some discussion here. It's a bit lengthy but well thought out and brings up some good points. Yes, this season has some holes in the plot, but I'm still really enjoying it.

I just re-watched last week's 24 and, while I'm enjoying this season, a lot of things don't add up. I'm hoping some of these items are addressed in upcoming episodes, since I'm a little confused. This season is serving up a lot of exclamation points as always, but just a few too many question marks.

First and foremost, what was the point of the terminal hostage plan? Was it to stop the treaty? Doubtful, since Walt could have probably made this happen, and instead kept Logan on track. Was it to pass the key card on to the fake hostage guy? Okay, but why not just have the guy go in and meet Chevensky without attracting the LAPD, CTU, and the media with a hostage situation? The guy with the headset seemed to be rooting for many dead hostages, and yet it seems that the nerve gas is the real key to what's going on. So who's in the loop, and who's a useful idiot? Maybe it's just that Walt (the person who decided to have Jack killed last season) found out that Jack wasn't really dead, and this plan is just revenge on everyone involved.

I guess it's possible for CTU to get the detonator serial number from a grainy picture taken from a cell phone camera by a guy tucked away in a hidden location, and then to get the frequency of the detonator from some master detonator frequency database. But how did Jack know which detonator he was activating? How did he know that the bomb he was detonating was attached to one of the two guys standing off to the side, and not one of the three guys standing over Derek or one of the five guys standing by the hostages? And since Chloe only was able to get one frequency for the detonator, why didn't all of the bombs go off? And when the bombs did go off, I would expect blood and little pieces of terrorist to go splattering amidst bursts of flame, but all we got were whiffs of smoke and little bits of paper fluttering about. Were the terrorists all made out of paper?

And I understand that live footage of a hostage crisis makes for compelling television, but an ex-president was just assassinated a couple of hours ago. Isn't that the top story? And it wasn't some ancient relic, it was the most recent ex-president, dead at 55. If President Clinton were to be assassinated at around 7am one morning, how much coverage do you think 60 hostages would get on the news at 9am that same morning? And, speaking of Palmer, if an ex-president had information vital to national security, would the only way he could communicate this to the current administration be through the first lady? Okay, they're friends, and I get that, but why would someone as brilliant and experienced as David Palmer trust anything vital to national security with someone that has the stability issues that Mrs. Logan has?

By the way, is there really such a thing as a "Flank 2" position? Curtis didn't ask for clarification any of the times Jack declared he was in one. If there is such a thing, how would an agent have actually told his team that he was in a "Flank 2" position without their thinking it was a duress code? Also, if someone knew what a "Flank 2" position really was, wouldn't it be suspicious that an agent was telling someone he was in one when he wasn't? Doesn't that just scream "DURESS CODE"? And is "Flank 2" really a useful duress code? How often are agents giving tactical direction under duress? Isn't a more common duress instruction something more like "Get on the radio and tell them everything's fine"? In Season Three (when Jack was an active CTU agent), Nina Meyers (who, while not active at the time, was familiar with CTU protocol) told Chase at gunpoint to get on the radio and tell Jack that he hadn't seen her. What was he supposed to do? "Jack, everything's clear. No sign of Nina. FLANK 2! FLANK 2!"

After the raid, why wasn't Jack immediately taken into custody? Was he not still a wanted fugitive? And why was anyone allowed to leave the building, as the fake hostage guy was? And why would Chewbacca, an eight-foot-tall Wookie, want to live on Endor with a bunch of two-foot-tall Ewoks? It just doesn't make sense! The defense rests.
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OSUsushichic said:
I just received this email from a friend and thought it would generate some discussion here. It's a bit lengthy but well thought out and brings up some good points. Yes, this season has some holes in the plot, but I'm still really enjoying it.
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Stop ruining it! Seriously though, couldn't they have detonated the single bomb by targeting the frequency to a particular geographic range, thereby only triggering the one? And yes, holding up 60 hostages the same morning the ex-Pres was assassinated would get plenty of t.v. coverage because even Geraldo would be able to figure out that the two events were probably connected. The show is without flaw. It is very believable.
 
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