2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, etc.

[BuckeyeNation27]

Maybe I'm a cynic. Maybe I'm just older and wiser*. This is about as obvious an example of propaganda as there is in CFB. This was a directive given to him to try and distance the program from Stallions. The cracks are starting to show.





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[brodybuck21]

446 Days Later​

By Ramzy Nasrallah on January 29, 2025 at 1:15 pm @ramzy

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So what's going to happen with all the Michigan cheating stuff?
And does it even matter? They won three conference crowns, a Rose Bowl and the CFP title. Memories are baked, shirts were printed and parades happened. History is written by winners.
Which is why Jim Harbaugh grossly underperforming in Ann Arbor through the 2020 season, after which he accepted a significant pay cut is now largely forgotten. The final year of that stretch included a 2-4 record and ducking out of playing Ohio State as a 31-point underdog.
The following season Michigan's B1G threepeat began. That's where history begins. After unsuccessfully attempting to have immunity from termination specifically related to NCAA investigations written into his Michigan contract Harbaugh left Ann Arbor for the NFL. Whatever, check out the trophies he left behind.
This past season was Michigan's first in a decade without him with the program, and it took Ohio State evacuating every last drop of its bowels into its pants for Michigan to secure its only road victory of 2024. The Wolverines lost everywhere else they went during the regular season. The only team they beat away from home were the national champs.
Michigan's run from 2021 to 2023 is the Barry Bondsiest thing we've ever seen in THE BIG TEN.
Five-loss Michigan is the defending ReliaQuest Bowl champion, and outside of Nov 30, this is kind of who they were prior to the pandemic? But no one remembers anything before 2020, because that's how history works. Ryan Day won in Ann Arbor two months before the pandemic. Seriously, look it up.
So what's going to happen with all the Michigan cheating stuff, and does it matter? You're probably an Ohio State fan reading this and the only thing that makes you happier than the Buckeyes winning is Michigan losing. Something was stinky in Ann Arbor to start that run of theirs. In these parts the cheating stuff matters.
It's the Barry Bondsiest thing we've ever seen in the Big Ten. The two seasons bookending Michigan's threepeat - where they were practically unbeatable - produced a 10-9 record. From 2021-2023 they were objectively talented and disciplined without having to resort to bending and outright disintegrating rules.
H o w e v e r there was clearly more than talent and discipline involved. At least there was to us. Rivals don't give each other the benefit of the doubt. You shouldn't expect it from them either.
What was done to salvage a coaching career careening into the abyss could be the most elaborate cheating scandal ever. Or, it might be nothing. Pretending the NCAA is aggressive, competent, fair or able to enforce anything beyond universal disdain for the targeting rule is foolish. These aren't the cops you call when you need a perp cuffed.
And Harbaugh is no longer there. What happened on his watch can neither hurt nor help Michigan anymore...maybe. People are still talking about it, and Michigan is now amplifying what happened again with the intention of diminishing what NCAA investigators concluded. It's a strategy!
What the scandal can do is haunt the program and curse what Harbaugh left behind - while Michigan works to try and keep Harbaugh's accomplishments clean. Because those trophies are program trophies. The Wolverines were winners recently, and history is written by winners. Cheaters only get to write excuses.

446 Days Later

Michigan's systemic cheating scandal was first revealed in October of 2023, and it's been mostly quiet ever since - but it's not gone. Not yet.

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[buckeyemania11]

Any chance that Stallions turns on them once it becomes clear to him that they are denouncing him fully and want nothing to do with him anymore?

I know he's a manifesto level obsessed person, but seems like total rejection from the one that type obsesses over could trigger revenge mode.

 

[shetuck]

You mispelld that.

i ws quotng the artcle.

 

[shetuck]

He doesn't want to be sued for defamation, so denying it or moving it up the chain is smart for his own liability. If Day would ever decide to pursue something, which I don't believe he will, I don't think deniability helps him if he should have known it was false. The claim is super outrageous.

“above my pay grade”




too soon?

 

[BUCKYLE]

I don't think that anyone "hired" a PI firm. Here's what I suspect happened....

1. On August 25, 2023, the Big Ten announced that it had hired U.S. Integrity (USI) "to enhance monitoring efforts and provide additional educational resources to help prevent student-athletes, coaches, and staff from engaging in prohibited sports wagering.... USI will provide integrity monitoring, educational, and social media monitoring services to the Big Ten Conference via its proprietary dashboard. USI conducts analysis across dozens of data sets to proactively identify irregular contest-level, officiating and wagering patterns." This was no secret – the Big Ten issued a press release announcing the hire.

2. With the increasing legalization and prevalence of sports wagering, USI was probably hired as a precautionary measure to prevent any game fixing shenanigans. I doubt that the Big Ten had any inkling of the scUM Sig Stealing Scandal when it hired USI.

The following is speculation....

3. A representative from USI held an introductory meeting with the coaching staffs of each Big Ten program – "If you notice any suspicious activity, please give us a call." The idea was for USI and the teams to work together to prevent "cheating".

4. Sometime in September or October of 2023, a member of the scUM coaching staff, for whatever reason – personal integrity, axe to grind, doesn't really matter – contacts USI and eventually turns over evidence of the Sign Stealing Scandal. And he turns over LOTS of evidence.

5. On October 17, 2023, less than two months after the Big Ten hired USI, an "outside investigative firm" notifies the NCAA of a potential prohibited sign-stealing scheme conducted by members of the Michigan football staff. The scheme allegedly involves Connor Stalions (and persons hired by him) attending opponents' games and filming their signs from coaches to players.

6. I have to believe that this "outside investigative firm" was USI. The timing of the notification to the NCAA, as well as the inside access to the scUM program, point directly to USI. EDIT: This scenario also helps to explain the alleged "gambling" aspect of the scandal.

Any thoughts @Premierdrum ?

The whole Ryan Day's brother/PI Firm hired bullshit started with Zach Smith as a troll. He knew Day's bro had worked for the CIA or whatever and just made some shit up to see how far the DFBIA would run with it

 

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[NFBuck]

 

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[gmen6981]

Don't fuck with New Hampshire wiseguys.

 

[Powair7s]

I can't fathom how Isaiah Hole doesn't think the person willing to sink the entire michigan program in order to get ahead is not capable of sinking his career in order to push a narrative. I mean just no caution whatsoever in parroting what stallions has to say.

 

[shetuck]

Any chance that Stallions turns on them once it becomes clear to him that they are denouncing him fully and want nothing to do with him anymore?

I know he's a manifesto level obsessed person, but seems like total rejection from the one that type obsesses over could trigger revenge mode.

 

[gmen6981]

You mispelld that.

Where's the gramer polise?

 

[scarletngray]

The sham of what it means to be a "Xichigan Man" is being fully exposed. I wonder if after all the penalties are handed down by the NCAA, if all the teams that were affected by the cheating scandal in the BIG, could file a class action lawsuit against the University, especially if Ono and Manuel were part of the cover up. Thoughts?