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2025 College Football Playoffs Discussion (12 Team Format)

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Jaxbuck said:
you can't schedule knowing how good a team will be, or will not be, that year.
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You're not wrong, but I know that Akron, Kent State, and Toledo are never going to be a threat to a Buckeye team that deserves to be in the playoffs. Schedule teams like that and lose 2 or fewer games every year. Or, in the case of Notre Dame losing to Northern Illinois, you better not lose any more games after that.

Gizmo said:
My solution is just 12 10-team conferences. Play 9 conference games every season, winner take all. Play 3 OOC "warm up games" like the NFL for seeding and ticket selling purposes. You could schedule all marquee games that way, since they won't "matter".
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Meh. No one wants to watch a game that doesn't matter. I mean, I'll still watch the Buckeye games. But who's watching Alabama vs. Clemson if neither team is helped or hurt by the result?
 
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Zurp said:
You're not wrong, but I know that Akron, Kent State, and Toledo are never going to be a threat to a Buckeye team that deserves to be in the playoffs. Schedule teams like that and lose 2 or fewer games every year. Or, in the case of Notre Dame losing to Northern Illinois, you better not lose any more games after that.


Meh. No one wants to watch a game that doesn't matter. I mean, I'll still watch the Buckeye games. But who's watching Alabama vs. Clemson if neither team is helped or hurt by the result?
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My main point is that whatever an opponent does after you play them is out of your control and should have zero impact on your season from there.

What if their QB gets hurt, or a scum bag coach leaves in the middle of the night and takes his staff with him? Anything can happen after you beat a team, why would you possibly want to open the door for any of that to punish you? I am all for scheduling changes but that is not anything I ever want to see get implemented.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
My main point is that whatever an opponent does after you play them is out of your control and should have zero impact on your season from there.

What if their QB gets hurt, or a scum bag coach leaves in the middle of the night and takes his staff with him? Anything can happen after you beat a team, why would you possibly want to open the door for any of that to punish you? I am all for scheduling changes but that is not anything I ever want to see get implemented.
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You have a fair point and I don't have an answer. You think you're going to be all awesome by scheduling a team that lost in the semifinals last year: Penn State. You shouldn't be "punished" because your "strong" team finished 6-6.
So, how do you incentivize a team to schedule Texas, or Georgia, or I mean, name anyone here. I know a lot of the SEC teams get criticized for scheduling too many shlubs. Should that continue? Maybe the answer is "yes - let everyone schedule whoever they want for OOC." If that's the case, then fine. But if Texas thinks they should schedule only shlubs to minimize the chances of losing, then they're going to schedule only shlubs.

I'm sure I'm worried about this more than I should be. But I'd like to see more of these big OOC matchups.

End communication.
 
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An update after the late games on Saturday.

8 teams are locked in.

tOSU and Indiana, winner obviously the #1 seed
Oregon, Ole Miss, aTm, and Oklahoma, all done playing
UGA and Texas Tech, both in top-4 now and are in even if they lose their CCG

2 more spots have to go to the the highest ranked winners of these 3 CCGs: ACC (UVA/Duke), AAC (N. Texas at Tulane), and Sun Belt (Troy at James Madison). So if Duke and James Madison both win, the ACC will likely get ZERO teams in.

That’s 10 spots, leaving 2 spots for these teams:

Bama - beat UGA in the CCG and it’s an auto-bid. Lose and it’s a debate/beauty/brand name contest
BYU - beat Texas Tech in the CCG and it’s an auto-bid and the Big-12 gets 2 teams. Lose and they’ll get dumped for losing the extra game, which is the same reason that Bama won’t be dumped
ND - I think they need a BYU loss, else their fans will scream about the lower ranked CCG winners getting it (you hate to see it)
Miami - they need BYU to lose and the head-to-head argument with ND to be a key factor

Vandy and Texas won‘t be in the top-10 and won’t have a chance.

I‘m rooting big-time for Duke, BYU, and James Madison so the ACC/ND semi-marriage gets completely left out.
 
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BB73 said:
An update after the late games on Saturday.

8 teams are locked in.

tOSU and Indiana, winner obviously the #1 seed
Oregon, Ole Miss, aTm, and Oklahoma, all done playing
UGA and Texas Tech, both in top-4 now and are in even if they lose their CCG

2 more spots have to go to the the highest ranked winners of these 3 CCGs: ACC (UVA/Duke), AAC (N. Texas at Tulane), and Sun Belt (Troy at James Madison). So if Duke and James Madison both win, the ACC will likely get ZERO teams in.

That’s 10 spots, leaving 2 spots for these teams:

Bama - beat UGA in the CCG and it’s an auto-bid. Lose and it’s a debate/beauty/brand name contest
BYU - beat Texas Tech in the CCG and it’s an auto-bid and the Big-12 gets 2 teams. Lose and they’ll get dumped for losing the extra game, which is the same reason that Bama won’t be dumped
ND - I think they need a BYU loss, else their fans will scream about the lower ranked CCG winners getting it (you hate to see it)
Miami - they need BYU to lose and the head-to-head argument with ND to be a key factor

Vandy and Texas won‘t be in the top-10 and won’t have a chance.

I‘m rooting big-time for Duke, BYU, and James Madison so the ACC/ND semi-marriage gets completely left out.
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A JMU win is almost a certainty

Duke is a legit coin flip but their defense is going to have a problem stopping UVA.

BYU is going to need some serious magic underwear help. They got worked by TT not all that long ago and the styles just don't line up right for them.
 
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BB73 said:
An update after the late games on Saturday.

8 teams are locked in.

tOSU and Indiana, winner obviously the #1 seed
Oregon, Ole Miss, aTm, and Oklahoma, all done playing
UGA and Texas Tech, both in top-4 now and are in even if they lose their CCG

2 more spots have to go to the the highest ranked winners of these 3 CCGs: ACC (UVA/Duke), AAC (N. Texas at Tulane), and Sun Belt (Troy at James Madison). So if Duke and James Madison both win, the ACC will likely get ZERO teams in.

That’s 10 spots, leaving 2 spots for these teams:

Bama - beat UGA in the CCG and it’s an auto-bid. Lose and it’s a debate/beauty/brand name contest
BYU - beat Texas Tech in the CCG and it’s an auto-bid and the Big-12 gets 2 teams. Lose and they’ll get dumped for losing the extra game, which is the same reason that Bama won’t be dumped
ND - I think they need a BYU loss, else their fans will scream about the lower ranked CCG winners getting it (you hate to see it)
Miami - they need BYU to lose and the head-to-head argument with ND to be a key factor

Vandy and Texas won‘t be in the top-10 and won’t have a chance.

I‘m rooting big-time for Duke, BYU, and James Madison so the ACC/ND semi-marriage gets completely left out.
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Think if JMU loses and UNLV wins the MWC title game UNLV (11-2 at that point) might get that 5th conference champion spot if Duke wins and still leave the ACC out
 
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