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*2024 tCun Shenanigans, Arguments, Cobras, Feckless Marmots, Fake Pandas, Dirty Cheaters

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Ono has another month to stall and beg that they don't do anything to his precious 2023. After that, his time is up. Given the complete lack of cooperation, the repeat offender status, their phony lawsuit last year and their cynical stalling now, I can't see the ncaa granting them an extension.

The one thing that gives me comfort is the lack of leaks. If the NOA and the accompanying evidence that was presented to tcun in any way hinted at slap on the wrist minor penalties, it would have bee fully leaked by tcun within a day or two.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Ono has another month to stall and beg that they don't do anything to his precious 2023. After that, his time is up. Given the complete lack of cooperation, the repeat offender status, their phony lawsuit last year and their cynical stalling now, I cant see the ncaa granting them an extension.

The one thing that gives me comfort is the lack of leaks. If the NOA and the accompanying evidence that was presented to tcun in any way hinted at slap on the wrist minor penalties, it would have bee fully leaked by tcun within a day or two.
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Part of their punishment should be that they're fined every dollar they got for merchandise that says "2023 national championship" that they sold since they got the NOA.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Ono has another month to stall and beg that they don't do anything to his precious 2023. After that, his time is up. Given the complete lack of cooperation, the repeat offender status, their phony lawsuit last year and their cynical stalling now, I can't see the ncaa granting them an extension.

The one thing that gives me comfort is the lack of leaks. If the NOA and the accompanying evidence that was presented to tcun in any way hinted at slap on the wrist minor penalties, it would have bee fully leaked by tcun within a day or two.
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Exactly. It would be all over their boards/blogs/podcasts with their idiot fans chirping about how they're gonna slide by with little punishment. Instead, they are totally ignoring it hoping that by not acknowledging the monster, it will just go away. When the hammer drops, their boards are gonna be torture porn.
 
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dUMb take of the day, most programs would covet scUMs QB roster!

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October 23rd, 2024 at 10:14 PM ^

I have a ton of gripes against Sherrone and his staff right now, but frankly I'm getting tired of the non-sensical blame thrown on him for not recruiting a 'good' transfer-portal QB - especially in light of all the legitimate reasons and constraints illuminated over the last 2 months on why it was NOT on Sherrone for not getting one.

For myself, I place much of the responsibility on Campbell (and Sherrone for hiring him as a completely unproven OC) for not properly developing the QBs we already had - to at least *being adequate enough at their jobs to deliver a baseline level of production that's expected of a program of Michigan's caliber...

What blows my mind is that we have a QB roster of the following: Jack Tuttle (25 year-old 4-star out of HS), Davis Warren (4th year who and-don't-call-me-Shirley would've been 4-star if not for his cancer ordeal in HS), and Jayden Denegal (3rd year 3.75-star with solid Wilton-Speight-ceiling) - that would've been a roster that most teams around the country would've coveted... And, they collectively shat the bed.

It's hard for me to buy in to (and anyone can convince me otherwise, I'm open) the notion that all our current QB options are talent-deficient which is why they are producing at the abysmal level they are now. The simpler straight-forward reason in my mind is that they were never properly coached and developed by the one person primarily responsible for their coaching and development. For instance, seeing that clip of Tuttle (against Illinois) throwing with the technique of a high schooler tells me that something just didn't happen during the off-season in preparing our QBs to lead this offense.

To me, it's likely that Campbell's reputation was primarily shaped by JJ just being JJ over the past 2 seasons, and folks (including Campbell himself) incorrectly attributed that to his coaching acumen and (an overestimation of his) ability.
Case in point... Say what we want about Scott Loeffler's acumen as an OC, but during his tenure as QB coach here (2002-2007) he demonstrated at least a B+ level of competency in developing QBs for a pro-style offense (see 3-star John Navarre's progression as a starter) in which they delivered a baseline level of solid passing, reading defenses, and decision-making that allowed us to be... well... never at the level where we're at now

I truly wonder how our QB production would be now if they had a coach that worked with the talent he had and invested in their individual growth trajectories without expecting them to be JJ

Of course I'm just an amateur fan and could be completely off base here, but I believe the first priority in the off-season would be to hire both a competent QB coach and OC. Just my two cents
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NFBuck said:
Exactly. It would be all over their boards/blogs/podcasts with their idiot fans chirping about how they're gonna slide by with little punishment. Instead, they are totally ignoring it hoping that by not acknowledging the monster, it will just go away. When the hammer drops, their boards are gonna be torture porn.
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NFBuck said:
Exactly. It would be all over their boards/blogs/podcasts with their idiot fans chirping about how they're gonna slide by with little punishment. Instead, they are totally ignoring it hoping that by not acknowledging the monster, it will just go away. When the hammer drops, their boards are gonna be torture porn.
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I get the feeling that most don't even think it's a thing. I don't think that they think they're "getting away with it". I think that they think there's nothing to "get away with". They've already been punished for the Connor Stalions thing - when Harbaugh was suspended for the last 3 games last year. That was their punishment. When they get more punishments, the fans will feel that this is a tremendous injustice, since no one has been talking about it and there's nothing to punish them for, anymore.

When was the last time anyone in the national media said anything about it? "Yeah, Michigan is in a bad situation with their offense doing nothing all season, and, by the way, remember that they still need to get punished for the cheating they did last year." No one is saying that. From what I understand, any time anyone mentions it on any of their message boards, it gets deleted pretty quickly. It's like North Korea-level of censorship. But it's not like anyone in the media is calling them out, either.

This is either really not a thing, or a lot of people are going to be caught by surprise when the punishments are handed down. I'm hoping it's the latter.
 
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I get the feeling that most don't even think it's a thing. I don't think that they think they're "getting away with it". I think that they think there's nothing to "get away with". They've already been punished for the Connor Stalions thing - when Harbaugh was suspended for the last 3 games last year. That was their punishment. When they get more punishments, the fans will feel that this is a tremendous injustice, since no one has been talking about it and there's nothing to punish them for, anymore.

When was the last time anyone in the national media said anything about it? "Yeah, Michigan is in a bad situation with their offense doing nothing all season, and, by the way, remember that they still need to get punished for the cheating they did last year." No one is saying that. From what I understand, any time anyone mentions it on any of their message boards, it gets deleted pretty quickly. It's like North Korea-level of censorship. But it's not like anyone in the media is calling them out, either.

This is either really not a thing, or a lot of people are going to be caught by surprise when the punishments are handed down. I'm hoping it's the latter.
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Well, their "insiders" are doing them no favors by refusing to even acknowledge it in any way, shape, or form. Any mention of it on their boards is quickly nuked. They literally act like it's not even a possibility that they could be in some trouble. They continue to talk about possible replacements for Cryin' Sherrone and attacking the transfer portal next year like them getting hammered isn't even a remote possibility and could have far-reaching future implications on things like hiring coaches and recruiting (both HS & Portal). It's a fascinating study in denialism.

By the by, I think Cryin' Sherrone's struggle to assemble anything resembling a competent coaching staff after Cheatin' Jim gutted them absolutely had something to do with all of the cheating crap looming over their head. It might not be talked about in the media, but you can bet coaches know about it. He had to settle for an internal hire that was fired by OLD DOMINION to be his OC and an NFL castoff that no one was hiring to be his DC. Couldn't find any good position coaches either except a guy who was about to be run out of C-bus.
 
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Well, their "insiders" are doing them no favors by refusing to even acknowledge it in any way, shape, or form. Any mention of it on their boards is quickly nuked. They literally act like it's not even a possibility that they could be in some trouble. They continue to talk about possible replacements for Cryin' Sherrone and attacking the transfer portal next year like them getting hammered isn't even a remote possibility and could have far-reaching future implications on things like hiring coaches and recruiting (both HS & Portal). It's a fascinating study in denialism.
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They go beyond that, the few times they do acknowledge it they act like scUM is the one wearing the pants and the NCAA is doing whatever they say :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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Which is ridiculous, because if the ncaa was cowering to tCun this would have already been settled.
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Being a "insider" on one of the scUM sites seems like a easy gig since the DFBIA will run with whatever they say without question. No matter how obviously ridiculous the claim may be. A lot of them still take Scam Webb as gospel even though that clown has a proven track record of being wrong way more than he is right.
 
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