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*2024 tCun Shenanigans, Arguments, Cobras, Feckless Marmots, Fake Pandas, Dirty Cheaters

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My guess is that his email is gmail and he has google drive with that. He’s referring to google drive as “email”. He has all his secret spreadsheets in google drive and he never shared them with anyone.

If someone hacked his google account that’s probably illegal. But if he’s hiding something against the rules, he isn’t magically exonerated of breaking the rules. If you have pictures online of you pooping on your neighbor’s front porch, and I hack your accounts and send them to the police, you aren’t free from punishment.

It might be a different story if police hacked your account without a warrant. But I’m not police.
 
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Seems like there is a ton of new to us evidence from Weiss' drives and devices according to this NOA leak. I would have thought that would all be wrapped up in the ongoing FBI investigation blanket.

I guess the NCAA just had an orgy of evidence on how the scouting scheme functioned? They didn't need to wait for the FBI to finish up. And that evidence is not specifically related to the computer crimes the FBI is looking into anyways

Just trying to reconcile if these new leaks cast doubt on the practice footage hack existing.
 
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CMic said:
I don’t think tcun would like to see a B1G administered punishment. With as pissed as all the constituents are with the cheaters, the penalties would be multiples of what they’ll receive from the NCAA.
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I’m not so sure. After the story broke mid-season last year, the B1G AD’s were outraged and wanted new commissioner Tony Petitti to penalize tCun decisively. This board suggested having tCun forfeit all 2023 conference games prior to Sparty, which seemed justified and should have kept tCun out of the postseason. But instead he only suspended Harbaugh and allowed the cheaters to continue their run to a title.

There was time to deal with 2021 and 2022, but Petitti should have prevented the cheaters from winning any championships in 2023 and he didn’t do it.
 
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BB73 said:
I’m not so sure. After the story broke mid-season last year, the B1G AD’s were outraged and wanted new commissioner Tony Petitti to penalize tCun decisively. This board suggested having tCun forfeit all 2023 conference games prior to Sparty, which seemed justified and should have kept tCun out of the postseason. But instead he only suspended Harbaugh and allowed the cheaters to continue their run to a title.

There was time to deal with 2021 and 2022, but Petitti should have prevented the cheaters from winning any championships in 2023 and he didn’t do it.
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Agreed, but I believe Tony was a bit handcuffed by the BIG's own bylaws.
 
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Zurp said:
My guess is that his email is gmail and he has google drive with that. He’s referring to google drive as “email”. He has all his secret spreadsheets in google drive and he never shared them with anyone.

If someone hacked his google account that’s probably illegal. But if he’s hiding something against the rules, he isn’t magically exonerated of breaking the rules. If you have pictures online of you pooping on your neighbor’s front porch, and I hack your accounts and send them to the police, you aren’t free from punishment.

It might be a different story if police hacked your account without a warrant. But I’m not police.
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I expect this is simpler

When Weis’ computer was seized “because of witnessed behavior”, there were emails on there from Stalions and spreadsheets that he’d received as attachments to those emails.

This led to a series of events that led to a seizure of university email servers. It’s that simple. Seized by the fbi, handed over to the investigative firm working at the behest of sports books, handed over to the league. No hacking involved
 
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DaddyBigBucks said:
I expect this is simpler

When Weis’ computer was seized “because of witnessed behavior”, there were emails on there from Stalions and spreadsheets that he’d received as attachments to those emails.

This led to a series of events that led to a seizure of university email servers. It’s that simple. Seized by the fbi, handed over to the investigative firm working at the behest of sports books, handed over to the league. No hacking involved
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DaddyBigBucks said:
I expect this is simpler

When Weis’ computer was seized “because of witnessed behavior”, there were emails on there from Stalions and spreadsheets that he’d received as attachments to those emails.

This led to a series of events that led to a seizure of university email servers. It’s that simple. Seized by the fbi, handed over to the investigative firm working at the behest of sports books, handed over to the league. No hacking involved
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To add: If Stallions ever logged into his email on Weiss's computer, it would be semi-easy to capture the session cookies, info, etc and go from there.

I sorta doubt they were logging out, clearing cache/cookies, etc properly.

People just don't understand how easy it is if you have the right stuff to do it.
 
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DaddyBigBucks said:
I expect this is simpler

When Weis’ computer was seized “because of witnessed behavior”, there were emails on there from Stalions and spreadsheets that he’d received as attachments to those emails.

This led to a series of events that led to a seizure of university email servers. It’s that simple. Seized by the fbi, handed over to the investigative firm working at the behest of sports books, handed over to the league. No hacking involved
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Yep - that is simpler than my explanation.
But I think that the important thing is that the batted ball went over the home run wall. DFBIA can argue that the fan in row 17 interfered with it, and it shouldn't be a home run. We're over here discussing whether staring at the lady 2 rows ahead of him is good for our health.
 
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Expectation setting.
I was told to expect a certain set of information this week, and I shared that here late last week. The three main things I was expecting were all out before lunch on Wednesday.
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There is at least one copy of the NOA in the hands of a journalist. There are steps that have to be taken before that can be used in reporting: Validating the document, protecting its sourcing, and clearing disclosure concerns. It might come out today, tonight, tomorrow... but I don't want us to get hung up on imminent release of the full NOA. It will come out once it's vetted and cleared. I wouldn't be shocked if Ken or Zach break it first... there's an obviously lower threshold involved there.
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I'll reiterate: If any little corner of the NOA improved the outlook for UM or the individuals involved, it would have slipped out already. Instead, it's radio silence.
And, for what it's worth, the leaked copy that's out was not my sourcing on yesterday's information. Take that as you will.
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One more nugget I meant to bring up yesterday that got lost in the shuffle.

Upon delivery of the NOA, the offending institution and individuals also receive access to investigative evidence and supporting documentation of the charges. These materials are not made available until the formal NOA is transmitted, meaning that - unless specifically referenced in the draft charge sections shared with them in late July - they've only just learned of most of the evidence against them.

I think that helps better explain and understand Warde's seemingly shell-shocked interview yesterday.
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^ PremiumDrum, a short time ago.

He makes a salient point about the reaction by Warde and the silence from up north. scUM did not have access to the evidence supporting the NOA until they received the formal copy. The dummies were downright defiant from Day 1. Then they received the NOA along with the evidence against them. Yesterday, Walmart Kingpin gives a softball interview with Sunshine Sam Webb and is suddenly capitulating saying that they will fight what they can, but have to recognize that they're responsible for obeying the rules and will have to admit they were wrong where they were. That doesn't sound like a position of strength. They got a look at the evidence and said "Well, ferk. We better try to walk this back some."
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Nope, not yet. He's not touching this shit because he's intellectually incapable of discussing anything that happens off the field. He's the epitome of a talking head who does what he's told to do by his corporate masters lest he end up paying the bills by fluffing a porn set.
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In all fairness, if you were making several Million a year for doing what your boss told you to do, what corp lawyers told you to stay away from, what might cause a certain school up north to sue you, would you risk it all on something that remains in the world of accusations? This is not "settled law" or a solved case yet.
 
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