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2023 tOSU Special Teams

Kicking scares me to death this year.
I just said Simmons was the biggest question mark/concern at LT, but I hadn't thought about kicking. One of those things you don't think about as being important until it becomes very important (cue the end of our season last year, I will leave it there). Even with an elite offense you are going to need a FG or a good punt in critical moments. Hopefully we have the guys to do that this season. Is Fielding the starting kicker this year? Mirco is back to punt, I have the utmost confidence in that kid though.
I think it's literally my biggest pet peeve of the team that they insist on using one of their best players to return every year
Mine as well, I have screamed about during games on here and anywhere I am watching the games. You either have a fumble, an injury, or a big return that gets called back anymore. That said, I do like Xavier at punt return and Trayanum on kick return. Both are important to the offense, but not critical like when we had Olave, Wilson, JSN, etc. back there. And both are very reliable and capable of a big return.
 
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I just said Simmons was the biggest question mark/concern at LT, but I hadn't thought about kicking. One of those things you don't think about as being important until it becomes very important (cue the end of our season last year, I will leave it there). Even with an elite offense you are going to need a FG or a good punt in critical moments. Hopefully we have the guys to do that this season. Is Fielding the starting kicker this year? Mirco is back to punt, I have the utmost confidence in that kid though.

Mine as well, I have screamed about during games on here and anywhere I am watching the games. You either have a fumble, an injury, or a big return that gets called back anymore. That said, I do like Xavier at punt return and Trayanum on kick return. Both are important to the offense, but not critical like when we had Olave, Wilson, JSN, etc. back there. And both are very reliable and capable of a big return.
I should have specified FG kicking.

Agree that Mirco is a beast!
 
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Junior wide receiver Emeka Egbuka will start as the Buckeyes' punt returner while graduate wideout Xavier Johnson handles its kickoff returns, Ryan Day announced at his press conference Thursday.
 
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Junior wide receiver Emeka Egbuka will start as the Buckeyes' punt returner while graduate wideout Xavier Johnson handles its kickoff returns, Ryan Day announced at his press conference Thursday.

Well...speaking of which. No way Egbuka should be returning punts unless it is simply to fair catch the ball. If they freaking get him hurt in that spot I am going to lose it. He is a first round WR, no reason to do that.
 
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Well...speaking of which. No way Egbuka should be returning punts unless it is simply to fair catch the ball. If they freaking get him hurt in that spot I am going to lose it. He is a first round WR, no reason to do that.

Yeah, we don't want him to get injured: but, being a great punt returner too will only make him a higher 1st round draft pick. I can name an asshole WR from scUM who won a Heisman, was drafted #4, had an 11 year NFL career, was an All-Pro, and a SuperBowl MVP because he could return punts/kickoffs, etc.
 
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“WE NEED TO HOLD EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE.” Ohio State's special teams unit had some – let's call them blunders, sure that works – blunders last season that cost the Buckeyes in their two losses to Michigan and Georgia.

Against the Wolverines, it was a lack of execution (twice!) from Mason Arnold, as the walk-on long snapper, who has since transferred, was called for a snap infraction and then, on the next attempt, snapped the ball to Jesse Mirco instead of Mitch Rossi. Against the Bulldogs, the Buckeyes had 12 men on the field for a fake punt (that would not have been called) before a well-timed Georgia timeout. And then, of course, the... *takes a deep breath*... the last-second missed field goal from Noah Ruggles.

Six weeks into the 2023 season, Ohio State's special teams blunders have continued.

In Ohio State's 37-17 win over Maryland on Saturday, the Buckeyes executed a punt so poorly that, in real-time, people wondered whether Ohio State called a fake. It was not. It was a botched snap from John Ferlmann.

“That’s the life of a long snapper, a punter and a field goal kicker,” Day said on Tuesday. “We call it one shot, one kill, like a sniper. You don’t have an opportunity to be wrong. They understand that. They’ll work hard to get that fixed.”


But Ohio State's miscues didn't stop there.

Xavier Johnson was called for illegal formation on a second-quarter punt, which Maryland wide receiver Jeshaun Jones returned for 26 yards. Tack on the extra 5 yards from Johnson's penalty, and the Terps took over on Ohio State's 49-yard line.

But Ohio State's miscues didn't stop there.

Johnson, Emeka Egbuka and later Jayden Ballard, who became the Buckeyes' punt returner after Egbuka exited the game, made some questionable decisions to fair catch or not fair catch punts. Also, one of Mirco's four punts traveled (quack, quack) 33 yards.

Those blunders and miscues are inexcusable, especially for a program with a full-time special teams coach. That said, I commend Ohio State beat reporter Doug Lesmerises, who asked Day if the Buckeyes' level of detail on special teams "should be better" given that Parker Fleming is in a devoted role.

"We want all of our detail to be better across the board," Day said. "We work really hard on special teams. I think the coaching detail is there. We need to hold each other accountable. It starts with me. I have to help coach it better – hold the coaches accountable and the players accountable to (coach and) play at a high level.

"We want (special teams) to be a weapon for us. We want it to be an area that we're winning on. There have been some good things, and just like offense and defense, there are areas we have to get better at.”

Day's answer wasn't exactly an endorsement of Fleming's work. Therefore, I wonder how this ends whenever the Buckeyes "come up for air."

Regardless, Ohio State's special teams need to improve. You have work to do, Mr. Fleming.

 
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"We want all of our detail to be better across the board," Day said. "We work really hard on special teams. I think the coaching detail is there. We need to hold each other accountable. It starts with me. I have to help coach it better – hold the coaches accountable and the players accountable to (coach and) play at a high level.

He's right. He (Day) is accountable.

I don't think he understands though, that saying "It starts with me" doesn't make it better when things continue to be sub par. You have to actually fix shit.

Then again, he isn't held to any appreciable level of accountability by his empty suit boss so it makes sense that he just uses meaningless jargon when faced with his failures. Performance reviews go something like this for Day:

"Ryan you failed to achieve three of the four stated goals for the program again in 2022. That is the second year in a row...so I am giving you a superior performance rating and a raise! Congratulations buddy!! Keep up the good work."
-Love Gene
 
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He's right. He (Day) is accountable.

I don't think he understands though, that saying "It starts with me" doesn't make it better when things continue to be sub par. You have to actually fix shit.

Then again, he isn't held to any appreciable level of accountability by his empty suit boss so it makes sense that he just uses meaningless jargon when faced with his failures. Performance reviews go something like this for Day:

"Ryan you failed to achieve three of the four stated goals for the program again in 2022. That is the second year in a row...so I am giving you a superior performance rating and a raise! Congratulations buddy!! Keep up the good work."
-Love Gene
How many different words can you use to post this same premise all over the board. Consider your point made. And I don't even disagree with it entirely, but your insistence injecting this at every turn is tiresome. Sorry, not sorry.
 
I think I have posted this before.
But how these elite teams like tOSU do not have insanely good special teams is beyond me. I would make damn sure my teams were channeling VaTech under Beamer.

The fact that these teams are not is beyond me.

As a note my old HS has for the last 30 years punished any team that dares to kickoff deep to them with this starburst return that they do that basically pops for a TD about 30% of the time it feels like. The point being do not settle for great O and D
 
I think I have posted this before.
But how these elite teams like tOSU do not have insanely good special teams is beyond me. I would make damn sure my teams were channeling VaTech under Beamer.

The fact that these teams are not is beyond me.

As a note my old HS has for the last 30 years punished any team that dares to kickoff deep to them with this starburst return that they do that basically pops for a TD about 30% of the time it feels like. The point being do not settle for great O and D
OSUs special teams used to be really special. I can’t recall the last time we broke a long punt or kickoff return.

Coverage for the most part had been decent with the exception of that one last week.

Punt blocks and fakes are a mixed bag.
 
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How many different words can you use to post this same premise all over the board. Consider your point made. And I don't even disagree with it entirely, but your insistence injecting this at every turn is tiresome. Sorry, not sorry.

I'll check with you on what I am allowed to post and where next time?
 
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How many different words can you use to post this same premise all over the board. Consider your point made. And I don't even disagree with it entirely, but your insistence injecting this at every turn is tiresome. Sorry, not sorry.
So, what’s your performance assessment of special teams this season? :sneaky:
 
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