2023 tOSU Offense

[Jaxbuck]

Column: Ohio State is in big trouble at offensive tackle

Greg Studrawa’s shortcomings have come home to roost.

www.landgrantholyland.com

Lazy talent evaluation and bad recruiting by Greg Studrawa are to blame for the issues Ohio State currently faces. If nothing else, hopefully Ryan Day and the rest of the Buckeye brain trust now know that you cannot allow that level of mediocrity among your coaching staff stick around for too long, or it can leave a lasting impact that will prove costly down the road. However, with Parker Fleming still employed in Columbus, I find it hard to believe that any lessons have actually been learned.

just sayin': I guess Gene Ross is just "telling it like it is".

100% agree with the author of that blurb. One of the primary roles of the HC job is to manage his staff. Day still doesn't manage the coaches, he's just such a great OC that they let him have the title. Gene Smith knows this. He commented on it publicly earlier this spring.

That is also why, imo, his teams find a way to lose close games. They don't have a leader. They have a very nice man who is the best offensive coach we've ever had at OSU.

It isn't sustainable.

 

[pnuts34]

100% agree with the author of that blurb. One of the primary roles of the HC job is to manage his staff. Day still doesn't manage the coaches, he's just such a great OC that they let him have the title. Gene Smith knows this. He commented on it publicly earlier this spring.

That is also why, imo, his teams find a way to lose close games. They don't have a leader. They have a very nice man who is the best offensive coach we've ever had at OSU.

It isn't sustainable.

That's a very fair assessment, IMO

 

[RugbyBuck]

I hope, obviously, that this doesn't turn out to be the case, but it would be homer-myopic to discount the possibility. Based on what we've seen, either side could be true. He could pull it together and be the next Kirby Smart or he could be the next Cooper, although if Neo-Coop it will be over too soon to know for sure.

 

[Jaxbuck]

I hope, obviously, that this doesn't turn out to be the case, but it would be homer-myopic to discount the possibility. Based on what we've seen, either side could be true. He could pull it together and be the next Kirby Smart or he could be the next Cooper, although if Neo-Coop it will be over too soon to know for sure.

I will say that the attitude we saw from the team vs UGA gives me hope that he can become that leader but my hope is tempered by the fact they lost the same way his teams tend to lose games if they don't have a big spurt that blows out the opponent.

I hope Day does learn to excel in the new job (HC) but to date he's giving off all the signs of someone who's been promoted to a new job simply based on how good he was at the old job but isn't ready for the new job. His handling of Studwara and Coombs tells me that loud as day (no pun intended).

 

[sparcboxbuck]

I will say that the attitude we saw from the team vs UGA gives me hope that he can become that leader but my hope is tempered by the fact they lost the same way his teams tend to lose games if they don't have a big spurt that blows out the opponent.

I hope Day does learn to excel in the new job (HC) but to date he's giving off all the signs of someone who's been promoted to a new job simply based on how good he was at the old job but isn't ready for the new job. His handling of Studwara and Coombs tells me that loud as day (no pun intended).

Your points are valid, however I think that you have to consider the politics of upsetting too much of the apple cart in his first year or so.

He does need to win this year though. That’s clear.

I fear for what happens if he doesn’t. Looking at the available talent out there, I’m not sure that there’s anyone who will do better.

 

[gmen6981]

Your points are valid, however I think that you have to consider the politics of upsetting too much of the apple cart in his first year or so.

He does need to win this year though. That’s clear.

I fear for what happens if he doesn’t. Looking at the available talent out there, I’m not sure that there’s anyone who will do better.

That's the question that needs to be seriously asked......."If" Day were to be relaced, who would you look at? If you consider top flight coaches who might be available there's really nobody out there. I don't want us to sound like other fanbases- "Back up the Brinks truck for Saban or Urb"........oh wait.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Your points are valid, however I think that you have to consider the politics of upsetting too much of the apple cart in his first year or so.

He does need to win this year though. That’s clear.

I fear for what happens if he doesn’t. Looking at the available talent out there, I’m not sure that there’s anyone who will do better.

We always get to that point when discussing it on a message board though. The fans don't know what the available talent pool is like so it's usually just a way to validate the desire to avoid change. People were saying the same thing up to the very last day of Cooper's tenure.

Pointing out that there is risk involved when you make a coaching change doesn't negate that one might be needed.

 

[sparcboxbuck]

We always get to that point when discussing it on a message board though. The fans don't know what the available talent pool is like so it's usually just a way to validate the desire to avoid change. People were saying the same thing up to the very last day of Cooper's tenure.

Pointing out that there is risk involved when you make a coaching change doesn't negate that one might be needed.

Your last paragraph cannot be disputed. However, from the first fucking day, I could have cared a bag of zero fucks if Cooper was retained. Knew it from when he visited us in Block O before the first home game in ‘88…

I appreciate his place in getting us to the level we are now. I don’t know that without his recruitment that we could have gotten from EB to Tress… but he was not the guy from go.

For Day? I’m not as convinced as you are that he’s not the guy.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Your last tweet paragraph cannot be disputed. However, from the first fucking day, I could have cared a bag of zero fucks if Cooper was retained. Knew it from when he visited us in Block O before the first home game in ‘88…

I appreciate his place in getting us to the level we are now. I don’t know that without his recruitment that we could have gotten from EB to Tress… but he was not the guy from go.

For Day? I’m not as convinced as you are that he’s not the guy.

My fervent wish is that he grows into the role just enough because, again, the single greatest offensive coach ever at OSU in an era when offense is king. On top of that, a genuinely kind and admirable human being.

All that said, I’d boot stomp Gandhi to death if that’s what ensured a win over tsun. There is no room for close losses or nice guys. It’s a results driven business and one game means more than all the others put together.

 

[sparcboxbuck]

My fervent wish is that he grows into the role just enough because, again, the single greatest offensive coach ever at OSU in an era when offense is king. On top of that, a genuinely kind and admirable human being.

All that said, I’d boot stomp Gandhi to death if that’s what ensured a win over tsun. There is no room for close losses or nice guys. It’s a results driven business and one game means more than all the others put together.

I’m for curb stopping Gandhi and Mother Teresa for the next win. Don’t fucking care… he’s got his guys now. It’s up to him to make it happen.

 

[BB73]

I’m also all for terminating residents of the subcontinent in Asia if it relates to victory in The Game, but consider these facts.

Gandhi was killed in early 1948, the year of TTUN’s first AP National Championship.

Mother Teresa died just before the start of the 1997 season, when TTUN won their split National title.

So before ending the existence of any famous peace-loving resident of India, please realize that it might result in some terrible fucking karma.

 

[sparcboxbuck]

I’m also all for terminating residents of the subcontinent in Asia if it relates to victory in The Game, but consider these facts.

Gandhi was killed in early 1948, the year of TTUN’s first AP National Championship.

Mother Teresa died just before the start of the 1997 season, when TTUN won their split National title.

So before ending the existence of any famous peace-loving resident of India, please realize that it might result in some terrible fucking karma.

Made me laugh out loud for real.

 

[Jaxbuck]

I’m also all for terminating residents of the subcontinent in Asia if it relates to victory in The Game, but consider these facts.

Gandhi was killed in early 1948, the year of TTUN’s first AP National Championship.

Mother Teresa died just before the start of the 1997 season, when TTUN won their split National title.

So before ending the existence of any famous peace-loving resident of India, please realize that it might result in some terrible fucking karma.

That is a cogent argument for a stay of stomping.

 

[CMic]

I’m also all for terminating residents of the subcontinent in Asia if it relates to victory in The Game, but consider these facts.

Gandhi was killed in early 1948, the year of TTUN’s first AP National Championship.

Mother Teresa died just before the start of the 1997 season, when TTUN won their split National title.

So before ending the existence of any famous peace-loving resident of India, please realize that it might result in some terrible fucking karma.

 

[1926Buckeyes]

100% agree with the author of that blurb. One of the primary roles of the HC job is to manage his staff. Day still doesn't manage the coaches, he's just such a great OC that they let him have the title. Gene Smith knows this. He commented on it publicly earlier this spring.

That is also why, imo, his teams find a way to lose close games. They don't have a leader. They have a very nice man who is the best offensive coach we've ever had at OSU.

It isn't sustainable.

He's obviously had some growing pains with his coaches whether positional or at DC. But I don't see it as any different than the issues every HC has at retaining good coaches and hiring new ones. Meyer was unbelievably bad at hiring competent coaches that could just maintain position units, much less coordinate one side of the ball. Same with Tressel, although I don't think it was nearly as bad.

All that to say, Day isn't significantly different than a lot of good coaches who didn't/have yet to ascend to legendary status. I don't see someone who's uniquely bad at leading or managing a staff, or who can't win close games. He definitely let a narrative get stuck in his head after the '21 loss in Ann Arbor that swung momentum in the rivalry, and needs to improve the red zone offense and OL recruiting. OSU's also had some pretty shitty luck with injuries and calls during his tenure, and if you can maintain recruiting and staff long enough, those calls will eventually roll your way and you'll win an NC (or 3).