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I have been asking myself that same damn question
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It's like getting into an argument with Pee Wee Herman ..... "I know you are, but what am I ?"
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CincyInterloper
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Not to be a wet rag, but I'm beginning to lower my expectations about justice being served here. If Ono has the backing of the board with his strategy of insisting on "due process" while simultaneously doing everything possible to frustrate any investigations and muddy the waters with false information, this could drag out for a long time. One thing I've come to realize lately is that it's really hard to punish anyone if they have the resources to keep fighting and lack any compunction about making false accusations of their own while denying all truthful accusations by others. Ono seems like he might be that type of guy.
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Vindicate2
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So, while we are waiting for official word I thought I would throw something out for everyone to ponder.
There is a YouTube show I follow called the Monty show. They are out of Utah. I started watching them during pac12 meltdown. They had shocking good information before stuff happened or before it hit the media. More recently they had the Ono meeting called a day or 2 ahead of them.
Yesterday , their sources believe Petitti is leaning towards a 4 game suspension. I haven’t heard that number from anywhere else . For discussion purposes, let say that is true. The suspension would be through the big 10 championship (or their bowl game).
My first reaction was … not enough , I want indefinite . Then I thought about it more and then I realized how much of bind this puts Michigan in. With indefinite , you sue because why not . Harbaugh season would be over anyways if you don’t so every game he is on the sidelines would be a bonus.
With a 4 game suspension , I’m not sure if you sue . If you accept it , he is available for the cfp. If you go to court , he coaches against psu/Maryland but might be unavailable for the cfp if the lose the suit
Just something to think about .
There is a YouTube show I follow called the Monty show. They are out of Utah. I started watching them during pac12 meltdown. They had shocking good information before stuff happened or before it hit the media. More recently they had the Ono meeting called a day or 2 ahead of them.
Yesterday , their sources believe Petitti is leaning towards a 4 game suspension. I haven’t heard that number from anywhere else . For discussion purposes, let say that is true. The suspension would be through the big 10 championship (or their bowl game).
My first reaction was … not enough , I want indefinite . Then I thought about it more and then I realized how much of bind this puts Michigan in. With indefinite , you sue because why not . Harbaugh season would be over anyways if you don’t so every game he is on the sidelines would be a bonus.
With a 4 game suspension , I’m not sure if you sue . If you accept it , he is available for the cfp. If you go to court , he coaches against psu/Maryland but might be unavailable for the cfp if the lose the suit
Just something to think about .
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What I’d like to see:
Hairball sues, coaches in the game and gets pantsed
What I’d love to see:
Hairball doesn’t coach in the game, the CUNTS get pantsed, the CUNTS cry, “it was because the big meanies took our dear fuhrer from us, not because we weren’t able to execute on stolen signals (because the hobbitses are watching, always watching precious)”
They convince enough people that the CUNTS are allowed into the CFP
In the CFP, the Buckeyes pants them worse than they did in the pig house
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BuckBackHome
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Any suspension has to include the coordinators. No way they were not as involved as Jimmuh.
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Hold on now
what makes you think that cheaters would try to worm their way out of accountability by lying?
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How about this. They suspend every coach, grad assistant and waterboy with knowledge in addition to Harbaugh for 4 games. (Replacing them with Brian Ferentz and Alex Grinch)
Let them play in the Reliaquest bowl, then have the NCAA come in later and drop a LOIC on them to vacate that and whatever other future sanctions they're feeling like.
I mean they're not going to self impose a postseason ban while they await their punishment from the NCAA. It would be unprecedented for a team with an undefeated record to do that! Oh wait.
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Vindicate2
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I agree and I hope they are . I was just talking about the length of suspension as it relates to potential lawsuits.
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It's their big noon whatever game this week, so they need ratings up.
That means maintaining the scandal, preferably with Harbaugh still in place.
Same. Id even take just the OC and DC for now.
Let Harbaugh be both coordinators, or try to fill slots from his "analysts" for the end.
Yea they keep using legal terms. But in that analogy, Michigan is arrested and behind bars awaiting their due process trial.
If they want bail, they can suspend some people. Real people - not a low level patsy.
Yea i think people were underselling PSU and our D after the game.
This D has become better and better as the season goes on. Allar is better than Buckeye fans want to credit him, because we aren't used to having an elite secondary.
I dono. Stalions, Harbaugh, and Ono are all very much acting similar to a mob.
Hiding behind "due process" they don't believe in. "I never seen that guy". "nobody else was involved"
For real. Even their arrogance will be readily replaced by UCLA and USC.
We lose nothing.
I mean it's obviously him. The problem is who gave him the pass and the coach gear?
Those people aren't going to talk and it's kind of a dead end.
Why does this feel like the scUM equivalent of Sandusky's nose size.
I still think Army needs to check their seat sales from 13-16. He "assisted" Navy football in some unknown capacity... and i dont feel like he's smart enough to come up with all of this on his own first time in the job.
Is he savvy enough to realize that?
I think their players are arrogant enough to not realize in the moment and stay in denial for forever.
When this is a 30-30, the players will still insist they got no competitive advantage from cheating.
They didn't need to do it, because they were being true cheaters.
Also, i imagine this requires a coaching tree. As we saw, all they had was CMU... and instead of getting McElwain to talk for an hour, they sent Stalions for the whole weekend.
That's a lot of GB every time somebody signs on.
Don't see that as feasible.
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The fact that there is video of Stalions on the sideline talking to Hairball blows holes in the “I didn’t know anything bad was happening” argument. Did Hairball think Stalions was so brilliant he was able decipher signals from the first play of the game? I know he’s special, but I don’t think he’s that special.
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This
This is why it’s not just the discovery process that makes lawsuits emanating from the Whore Up North a bad idea.
He can’t make his case without saying he wasn’t aware: he can’t say that without opening himself up to a perjury charge; one that the discovery process is likely to prove.
And that’s probably just the tip of the perjury iceberg
why open himself up to all of that when the rules that he agreed to live by state that he is held accountable whether he knew or not?
arrogance
when you’re talking about why CUNTS do what they do, the answer is usually arrogance
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