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2023 tCun Shenanigans, Arguments, Cobras, Feckless Marmots, Fake Pandas, Dirty Cheaters

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The issue I have with this is there was no way for Stalions to send a person to TCU prior to that game. Probably half the reason they lost.

So if any signal stealing happened, it was most likely done legally.
But it shows how involved a "low-level staffer" is involved in the game in real time. This isn't the only game porn name marine is seen in a similar position. Their claims that Stalions is just a "rogue agent" don't wash when the staff have him right there standing next to them in games.
 
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But it shows how involved a "low-level staffer" is involved in the game in real time. This isn't the only game porn name marine is seen in a similar position. Their claims that Stalions is just a "rogue agent" don't wash when the staff have him right there standing next to them in games.
No doubt! But this would also be the counter argument from scum that they were doing it by the books. Just keeping it in the correct view.
 
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The issue I have with this is there was no way for Stalions to send a person to TCU prior to that game. Probably half the reason they lost.

So if any signal stealing happened, it was most likely done legally.
I don't disagree, this was likely done in game based on what limited data they had up front coupled with in game . You can see Stalions visibly frustrated right at the snap earlier in the game.

But this is the system, and bad data in equals bad bad data out, or alternatively limited data in equals limited data out. They clearly have a system of stealing signals in game that becomes more effective (and against NCAA bylaws) when coupled with externally collected data, like sending staffers to record games at other Big Ten schools.
 
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I don't disagree, this was likely done in game based on what limited data they had up front coupled with in game . You can see Stalions visibly frustrated right at the snap earlier in the game.

But this is the system, and bad data in equals bad bad data out, or alternatively limited data in equals limited data out. They clearly have a system of stealing signals in game that becomes more effective (and against NCAA bylaws) when coupled with externally collected data, like sending staffers to record games at other Big Ten schools.
No doubt that the external signal stealing gave them a competitive advantage. The TCU loss shows it.
 
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I don't disagree, this was likely done in game based on what limited data they had up front coupled with in game . You can see Stalions visibly frustrated right at the snap earlier in the game.

But this is the system, and bad data in equals bad bad data out, or alternatively limited data in equals limited data out. They clearly have a system of stealing signals in game that becomes more effective (and against NCAA bylaws) when coupled with externally collected data, like sending staffers to record games at other Big Ten schools.
I have to tip my cap to the kid, even if its devious illegal bull. He clearly has a gift for interpreting signals and figuring out who is doing the signals.

In the end, scum got greedy, and that is their downfall with this.
 
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Since Indiana 2022 (12 games, not including 2023 Sparty) Michigan has outscored B1G opponents 282 -36 in the second half. 7 of those games were 2nd half shut outs. The ones that weren't were 2022 Ped (3 2nd half points) 2022 Illinois (somehow managed to outscored scUM 14 12 and represents an outlier if you ask me (The Game was then following week) 2022 Ohio State (3 pts), 2022 Purdue (9 pts, B1G championship game) and a garbage time 74 yard run to 2023 Nebraska.

Conversely Michigan preformed better than its first half every single game, excluding 2022 Nebraska where they scored 17 each half in a 34 3 win.
 
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The issue I have with this is there was no way for Stalions to send a person to TCU prior to that game. Probably half the reason they lost.

So if any signal stealing happened, it was most likely done legally.

Big 12 championship was a week after The Game. Absolutely possible for someone to have gone and scouted that ahead of time, especially being that TCU was ranked #2 at that time.

Clearly they worked to cover their bases with potential future opponents ( See, Georgia and B1G mid tier teams) it would be a huge oversight by them to have taken TCU for granted.

I'm not saying that couldn't have happened. But when you uncover massive cheating, people that devious tend to leave no stone unturned.
 
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Since Indiana 2022 Michigan has outscored B1G opponents 282 -36 in the second half. 7 of those games were 2nd half shut outs. The ones that weren't were 2022 Ped (3 2nd half points) 2022 Illinois (somehow managed to outscored scUM 14 12 and represents an outlier if you ask me (The Game was then following week) 2022 Ohio State (3 pts), 2022 Purdue (9 pts, B1G championship game) and a garbage time 74 yard run to 2023 Nebraska.

Conversely Michigan preformed better than its first half every single game, excluding 2022 Nebraska where they scored 17 each half in a 34 3 win.
Wouldn't this imply that they are god like in game stealing of signs? I would expect it to be almost the reverse.... but I guess they could have "tried" not to use the info in the first half but because the games were close felt the needs?
 
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