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2021 ttun Shenanigans, Arguments, Surrender Cobras, Feckless Marmots, and Quitty Cowards

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Which scUM QB transfers first?

  • McNamara

    Votes: 23 45.1%

  • McCarthy

    Votes: 28 54.9%
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cincibuck said:
I'm not saying they're good, I'm saying they're not as bad as we on this site want to believe they are. I'm saying that winning the Big East is not/was not a walk in the park. They had to do something right to get there.

The "we've got 5-stars out the ass and they only have three stars schtick" doesn't alter the fact that the Bucks' three big ten losses over the last several years have been to teams with three-star players. Our loss to Oregon was old threes against young fives, the close games with Penn State and Nebraska? threes against fives. Five-star QBs and receivers don't work without a solid o-line and that was obvious in more than the Michigan game.

Let's be honest. That was a real ass-kicking on Saturday and by a team that loses Hutchison and possibly Hassan Haskins. At the same time, the bucks have gone from the #2 defense in 2019, to 59th last year, to something in the mid-hundreds this year. We've gone from Zeke, to Dobbins, to Sermon, to an o-line that can't get a 5-star once-in-a-generation back open. We've gone from linebacker u to who can you convert to linebacker u.

As Woody said, "There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." So maybe Michigan did the Bucks a favor.

This will be the year when we find out how good of a coach Day is. He needs to make some changes on his staff, he needs to find some one-year-wonders on the portal, he needs to keep at least one of his QBs happy with sitting behind Stroud, he needs to make this team hungry again, and he needs to prove he can find answers for the o-line, the d-line, and the LBs.

I think he can do it, but it's a tall order.
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3 star programs catching lightening in a bottle and occasionally beating a 5 star laden program is nothing new. Look at the infrequency with which it happens and ask yourself which type of program you'd rather be. Tsun had a very veteran team playing a very young team, at home at the end of an 8 year losing streak (should have been 9). It all went their way this year. They simply are not recruiting at the level to be anything more than the second best team in the B1G that can occasionally jump up to bite OSU.

I've been calling out Stud and the dangers of wasting all this skill talent because of a bad OL for a while now. I just didn't think it was already on us.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
3 star programs catching lightening in a bottle and occasionally beating a 5 star laden program is nothing new. Look at the infrequency with which it happens and ask yourself which type of program you'd rather be. Tsun had a very veteran team playing a very young team, at home at the end of an 8 year losing streak (should have been 9). It all went their way this year. They simply are not recruiting at the level to be anything more than the second best team in the B1G that can occasionally jump up to bite OSU.

I've been calling out Stud and the dangers of wasting all this skill talent because of a bad OL for a while now. I just didn't think it was already on us.
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Boise St beat Oklahoma, Louisville beat Florida, Utah beat Bama, James Madison beat VA Tech, (most famously to us) App State beat TTUN, on and on
Upsets happen. But few have had sustained success that beat the "Goliath" team. I'd still much rather be in OSU's shoes than scUM's long term
 
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scUM caught 2 lightning in the bottle pass rushers in Hutchinson and Ojabo who were the major key to their success this year.

When those guys didn't get home their secondary was still a mess. Problem for them is both of those guys are gone after this year. I'd put the chances of them throwing out 2 comparable replacements to about close to 0.

Their oline played shockingly well, especially in the run game. 3 of those guys are gone. Losing Haskins at RB is a big deal too. Corum and Edwards can both be explosive but can either of them carry the load Haskins did this year?

This is where depth in recruiting really comes into play.
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
scUM caught 2 lightning in the bottle pass rushers in Hutchinson and Ojabo who were the major key to their success this year.

When those guys didn't get home their secondary was still a mess. Problem for them is both of those guys are gone after this year. I'd put the chances of them throwing out 2 comparable replacements to about close to 0.

Their oline played shockingly well, especially in the run game. 3 of those guys are gone. Losing Haskins at RB is a big deal too. Corum and Edwards can both be explosive but can either of them carry the load Haskins did this year?

This is where depth in recruiting really comes into play.
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The problem that the DL may cause, will be years down the line, not next year.
And the OL played to the strength. Once they got up, it was their gameplan. They were a run oriented team. If OSU got up, then would've dramatically altered the gameplan, IMO
 
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pnuts34 said:
Once they got up, it was their gameplan. They were a run oriented team. If OSU got up, then would've dramatically altered the gameplan, IMO
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And there were plenty of missed chances to go up (even up big) in the 1st half:
  • Stroud's missed / Olave's dropped TD that would have tied the game on tOSU's drive after Shaw's INT
  • JSN dropping a wide open pass on a Stroud scramble that would have put the Buckeyes in field goal range at the very least
  • Zach Harrison dropping an INT deep in TTUN territory on TTUN's 2nd scoring drive (biggest missed opportunity IMO, would have been 10 or 14 point swing)
  • Stroud not throwing to Ruck or Wilson (both open in the end zone) on TTUN's 3rd down stop before the half to force a field goal
 
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For the record...Gattis says Ohio State is not tough.

https://www.si.com/college/2021/11/30/michigan-offensive-coordinator-says-ohio-state-not-tough-team

The Wolverines held the Buckeyes to just 64 yards rushing on 30 carries, and they ran ragged all over Ryan Day's squad with 297 rushing yards and six rushing touchdowns. Michigan offensive coordinator Josh Gattis added some insult to injury on Monday when discussing the Buckeyes.

"They’re a finesse team, they’re not a tough team," Gattis said on the ‘Inside Michigan Football’ radio show on Learfield IMG. "And we knew that going into the game that we can out-physical them, we can out-tough and that was gonna be the key to the game, and that’s what we prepared for all year long."

"You saw earlier this year in the game they lost to Oregon, Oregon was the most physical team on the field. That’s the way they lost, and we committed to that recipe, and it paid off.”
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rsh said:
And there were plenty of missed chances to go up (even up big) in the 1st half:
  • Stroud's missed / Olave's dropped TD that would have tied the game on tOSU's drive after Shaw's INT
  • JSN dropping a wide open pass on a Stroud scramble that would have put the Buckeyes in field goal range at the very least
  • Zach Harrison dropping an INT deep in TTUN territory on TTUN's 2nd scoring drive (biggest missed opportunity IMO, would have been 10 or 14 point swing)
  • Stroud not throwing to Ruck or Wilson (both open in the end zone) on TTUN's 3rd down stop before the half to force a field goal
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Also the refs not calling Wilson getting tackled in the endzone cause they were too busy watching the almost interception.

Plus no Idea why we didn't go back to Egbuka on the kickoff return this game. He wouldn't have dropped 2.
 
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