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2021 ttun Shenanigans, Arguments, Surrender Cobras, Feckless Marmots, and Quitty Cowards

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Which scUM QB transfers first?

  • McNamara

    Votes: 23 45.1%

  • McCarthy

    Votes: 28 54.9%
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buckeyemania11 said:
Don't tell DFBIA that, it's still "morally wrong" to them and they are of course riding with the "The university won't allow our players to use NIL like other schools" bs.

Big shock nobody wants to throw a bunch of money at anyone on a team coming off a 2-4 season that has no proven "stars" or anyone whos even remotely marketable.
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They're just pissed because going to tsun to play football isn't marketable, because _ichigan Football fucking sucks and has for a decade and a half, and therefore is not as attractive to top athletes. Want that to change? Stop recruiting twitter warriors, get a coach that's not a retard that likes to play dress up like a 1970s football coach, and try winning something real. Losers.
 
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I get considerable joy from the fact that as bad as the 90s were for us, they've been suffering for twice as long with no end in sight.

Also, while it did indeed suck losing to those shitgibbons most Novembers, at least they weren't really a consistently ELITE program. Aside from 1997, they were typically a roughly 8-4/9-3 team. Yes, it sucked having some of our seasons ruined, but at least we didn't have to sit there, miserable, watching them reel in historic recruiting classes, playing for and winning multiple National Titles and being considered one of the 3 best programs in the country.

I hope it fucking hurts.
 
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NFBuck said:
I get considerable joy from the fact that as bad as the 90s were for us, they've been suffering for twice as long with no end in sight.

Also, while it did indeed suck losing to those shitgibbons most Novembers, at least they weren't really a consistently ELITE program. Aside from 1997, they were typically a roughly 8-4/9-3 team. Yes, it sucked having some of our seasons ruined, but at least we didn't have to sit there, miserable, watching them reel in historic recruiting classes, playing for and winning multiple National Titles and being considered one of the 3 best programs in the country.

I hope it fucking hurts.
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I'd argue that the 90s were better for us than the time since and including 2001 has been for them. Ohio State managed 2-1/2 wins in the 90s (tie in 1992, wins in 1994 and 1998), for a 0.250 percentage. Michigan has 2 wins since 2001 (2003 and 2011), for a 0.105 percentage.
As for the "no end in sight" part, you aren't wrong, but that doesn't mean we take the foot off the pedal. I think that in 1999 and 2000, there was no "end in sight" for Ohio State. Ohio State entered the 2001 game with a 6-4 record. I think Michigan was 9-1. While I knew it was possible to win, I certainly didn't think the losing was over.
And you have a point that the consolation was that Michigan wasn't any good, either. At least, they weren't ELITE (outside of 1997 - that team was really good). I've never followed recruiting, so I'll assume you're right. It would have sucked watching them play against the elite teams of the 90s and win their fair share against them. But at the same time, losing to a 7-3 team when Ohio State is 10-0 sucked. It sucked. It might not have hurt so much if Michigan was winning national championships and Ohio State was competing for #3 in the conference.

Conclusion: I hope it hurts, too. Beat them until they leave the Big Ten and join the MAC. Continue beating them until they leave the FBS and join the FCS. Then beat them until they quit the sport. Then beat them again.
 
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NFBuck said:
I get considerable joy from the fact that as bad as the 90s were for us, they've been suffering for twice as long with no end in sight.

Also, while it did indeed suck losing to those shitgibbons most Novembers, at least they weren't really a consistently ELITE program. Aside from 1997, they were typically a roughly 8-4/9-3 team. Yes, it sucked having some of our seasons ruined, but at least we didn't have to sit there, miserable, watching them reel in historic recruiting classes, playing for and winning multiple National Titles and being considered one of the 3 best programs in the country.

I hope it fucking hurts.
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Attended Eastern Michigan from '93-'97.
That was intense suffering being 5 min east of that WUN.
 
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Zurp said:
I'd argue that the 90s were better for us than the time since and including 2001 has been for them. Ohio State managed 2-1/2 wins in the 90s (tie in 1992, wins in 1994 and 1998), for a 0.250 percentage. Michigan has 2 wins since 2001 (2003 and 2011), for a 0.105 percentage.
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We also were really good during the time we couldn't beat Michigan. They've had patches of complete shit mixed in with only being able to beat the turds of their schedule. You might say their "good" seasons ended up being a.....mirage.
 
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Zurp said:
I'd argue that the 90s were better for us than the time since and including 2001 has been for them.
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Being consistently great in the 90s in the Big Ten was a fucking feat, too. Every team but Indiana & Minnesota won or shared a conference title from 1990-2000. The conference sent seven different teams to the Rose Bowl, and in the span of the 92-99 regular seasons, the Big Ten won 7 out of 8 Rose Bowls played.

John Cooper went 92-29-2 (.756) in the decade with five different 10-win seasons against that level of competition and got fired for it.
 
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DaddyBigBucks said:
The simple truth is, it was wrong that the athletes were prevented from making these deals previously.

Morally wrong.

It was based on an incredibly elitist, bigoted view of the world. The reverence for amateurism was based very firmly in the belief that only the sons of the elite should be allowed to compete at the college level. Professional sport is just so gauche and all that.

Athletes should have had this right all along. Now they have it. Yes, it's a big change. Yes, big change always has consequences. Yes, not all of the consequences are good. That's life.
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I'd go a step further and say that modern America has viewed physical labor and sweat as gauche
 
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Food for thought on a slow offseason Wednesday;

For as much pain and suffering they have endured over the past 19 years, the DFBIA has another 3 years of the same treatment ahead of them (if not worse) already on the books.

They haven't even started getting the '20-'22 class talent gap punches to the face yet (and it's looking like a big, meaty, Polack fist-coming from down around Laredo- with a roll full of quarters in it kind of punch)

2020 recruiting class, average ranking OSU/tsun: .9179/.9034
2021:.9498/.8999
2022 (as of now): .9398/.8872

  • The soonest a class of '20 kid can leave is 2022, for a '22 class kid it's 2024. Some will go pro in only 3 years but those two monster recruiting classes of '21 and '22 won't wash through fully until 2024 & 2025.
  • There are TEN (10)!, 5 star recruits covered by those three recruiting classes that haven't gotten to win a pair of Gold Pants yet (due to the craven nature of tsun coaches and administrators).
  • Two of the next three chances to win said Gold Pants will be played in Columbus.

If tsun somehow flipped the recruiting war today, this massive gap plays out on the field for the next 3 seasons minimum. Every class from here that maintains this type of gap, adds 2-3 more years before they could possibly start to make up ground with a monster class of their own.

They aren't flipping the recruiting war today.
 
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