2021 ttun Shenanigans, Arguments, Surrender Cobras, Feckless Marmots, and Quitty Cowards

[Jaxbuck]

Looking at the Bo years and it was clearly their high water mark. 1969-1989 (21 seasons)

Total losses: 48
Avg L's: 2.29
# of less than 3: 14


14 times out of 21 tries he managed to finish with fewer than 3 losses, albeit, in shorter seasons. He never did manage to go unbeaten and untied though. I bet that tie in 1973 stung like a bitch. Wonder what happened there? Anyone familiar with that story?


BTW: Including Bo's years with the rest of them since 1969 (52 seasons) they are still averaging over 3 L's per season (3.17).

 

[Jaxbuck]

1950-1968 (Pre-Bo, Post dawn of modern era of football)
19 seasons

Total L's: 73
Avg L: 3.8
# less than 3 L's: 4

 

[Jaxbuck]

Sparing everyone the full year by year picture, here then are the totals.

1950-2020 (71 years)
Total L's: 238
L's per year:3.35
# of seasons with less than 3 L's:26

In the total history of the program since 1950 they average 3.35 losses per year. They manage to have a year with less than 3 losses about every 3 years or so (Bo era really helped the average here)

21 years of Bo they averaged 2.28 losses a year and had 14 seasons with fewer than 3.
50 years of football since 1950 without Bo they have averaged 3.8 losses a year and managed less than 3 only 12 times.

If anyone tries to tell you they aren't a 3-4 loss a year program, they don't know what they are talking about. It's been that way for over 70 years.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

Excellent work, @Jaxbuck . That spells out 2 things: Why they revere Bo so fucking much, and why their fanbase is mostly blue hairs.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

1950-1968 (Pre-Bo, Post dawn of modern era of football)
19 seasons

Total L's: 73
Avg L: 3.8
# less than 3 L's: 4

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In an 11 season span (1957-1967), they had one season where they were excellent (1964 at 9-1). In the other 10 seasons they lost at least a third of their games and had six losing seasons. In fact, during that 11-season timeframe they went 50-49-4.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Excellent work, @Jaxbuck . That spells out 2 things: Why they revere Bo so fucking much, and why their fanbase is mostly blue hairs.

shiiiit....there aren't many blue hairs left that could remember their pre-Bo golden years. Older people who act like they remember tsun as a power house are the ones who are the most full of shit and who my numbers are directed at. It's all made up bullshit, they don't remember anything of the sort. They remember a few of Bo's best years.

To have real living memory of a football season you have to be what, at least 12? Fuck it, let's give them a break and call it 10.

Their last 2 seasons of glory were just after WWII 1947 and 1948.

You'd have to be 84 years old today MINIMUM to remember that (and if you are 84 you probably can't remember it anyway). Closer to reality is you would have had to been more like 15 at the time and that puts you in at 90+ to have actual living memory of their last, full, NC season.

There aren't that many of them around and if they are still alive, they aren't on message boards thumping their chest about the glory days of tsun football.

 

[buckeyemania11]

Dead program like Da U and Nebraska.

But they never even reached the peak of Da U and Nebraska in modern times.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Dead program like Da U and Nebraska.

But they never even reached the peak of Da U and Nebraska in modern times.

I want them to be more dead though.

There is no such thing as dead enough for those arrogant bastards.

 

[buckeyemania11]

Their odd obsession with Wisconsin is interesting. Also some seem to thing the Oregon State transfer who can probably barely move is going to help them not get ran over by them this year. Because of course Wisconsin's coaching staff couldn't figure out a way to just run around the guy the MAYBE 1 play per series he could actually stay on the field.

https://www.mgoblog.com/mgoboard/whittley-not-whitley-and-dt-crew

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

Their odd obsession with Wisconsin is interesting. Also some seem to thing the Oregon State transfer who can probably barely move is going to help them not get ran over by them this year. Because of course Wisconsin's coaching staff couldn't figure out a way to just run around the guy the MAYBE 1 play per series he could actually stay on the field.

https://www.mgoblog.com/mgoboard/whittley-not-whitley-and-dt-crew

As if Wisconsin ever runs a play where the player on the END of the formation runs AROUND to the other side. Nope....never seen anything like that.

 

[buckeyemania11]

As if Wisconsin ever runs a play where the player on the END of the formation runs AROUND to the other side. Nope....never seen anything like that.

They want to replace their current system of undersized slow guys with bigger slower guys. That's surely to work out against teams with any kind of speed.

 

[LordJeffBuck]

Their odd obsession with Wisconsin is interesting.

I think DFBIA understands why Ohio State is better than they are - we have better athletes at almost every position. Sure, we have better athletes because we cheat, pay players, offer online classes, have no admissions standards, yada yada yada. But even the dumbest of the DFBIA knows there's really no argument about which team has more talent - they just concoct conspiracy theories to explain how we acquired so much more talent.

Wisconsin, on the other hand, has demonstrably less talent than scUM, and Wisky has kicked scUM in the nuts a couple times recently (49-11 in 2020; 35-14 in 2019). And Wisconsin has done it using pure Manball. That has to be a real blow to the psyche - the less-talented team steamrolling you up and down the field - especially because Harbaugh basically promised the DFBIA that scUM would be the Kings of Manball. So the DFBIA obsesses about regaining the Manball crown from Wisky, because beating Ohio State, winning the Big Ten title, and going to the playoffs isn't exactly realistic anymore. And signing 360-pound DTs feeds that obsession.

 

[buckeyemania11]

I think DFBIA understands why Ohio State is better than they are - we have better athletes at almost every position. Sure, we have better athletes because we cheat, pay players, offer online classes, have no admissions standards, yada yada yada. But even the dumbest of the DFBIA knows there's really no argument about which team has more talent - they just concoct conspiracy theories to explain how we acquired so much more talent.

Wisconsin, on the other hand, has demonstrably less talent than scUM, and Wisky has kicked scUM in the nuts a couple times recently (49-11 in 2020; 35-14 in 2019). And Wisconsin has done it using pure Manball. That has to be a real blow to the psyche - the less-talented team steamrolling you up and down the field - especially because Harbaugh basically promised the DFBIA that scUM would be the Kings of Manball. So the DFBIA obsesses about regaining the Manball crown from Wisky, because beating Ohio State, winning the Big Ten title, and going to the playoffs isn't exactly realistic anymore. And signing 360-pound DTs feeds that obsession.

The plunger is coming out again this year in Madison

they are either going to get a pissed off Wisconsin team that just lost a ND or a Wisconsin team whos on a roll after beating ND.

 

[Jaxbuck]

I think DFBIA understands why Ohio State is better than they are - we have better athletes at almost every position. Sure, we have better athletes because we cheat, pay players, offer online classes, have no admissions standards, yada yada yada. But even the dumbest of the DFBIA knows there's really no argument about which team has more talent - they just concoct conspiracy theories to explain how we acquired so much more talent.

Wisconsin, on the other hand, has demonstrably less talent than scUM, and Wisky has kicked scUM in the nuts a couple times recently (49-11 in 2020; 35-14 in 2019). And Wisconsin has done it using pure Manball. That has to be a real blow to the psyche - the less-talented team steamrolling you up and down the field - especially because Harbaugh basically promised the DFBIA that scUM would be the Kings of Manball. So the DFBIA obsesses about regaining the Manball crown from Wisky, because beating Ohio State, winning the Big Ten title, and going to the playoffs isn't exactly realistic anymore. And signing 360-pound DTs feeds that obsession.

Ironically enough, this is as close to self awareness as anything I have ever seen from them.

 

[buckeyemania11]

From "he will be able to handpick any QBs he wants" to "well maybe he can develop these 3*" Life comes at you fast if you're part of the DFBIA

https://www.mgoblog.com/mgoboard/m-offers-2022-qb-conner-harrell

M offers 2022 QB Conner Harrell
Submitted by Magnus on May 22nd, 2021 at 3:28 PM

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Aashon Larkins is working in Alabama again, offering Alabaster (AL) Thompson quarterback Connor Harrell. Harrell is 6'1", 191 lbs. and a 3-star, the #13 dual-threat QB, and #646 overall in the 2022 class. It seems/seemed like Michigan had most of its eggs in the basket of Clovis (CA) Clovis dual-threat QB Nate Johnson (3-star, #23 dual-threat, #953 overall).

Johnson is much more of a project when it comes to throwing the ball, but he's a more dynamic runner. Harrell is a more polished thrower - though his arm strength is just so-so, in my opinion - but a less dangerous runner.

Personally, I would take a good QB and decent runner over a great runner who's just a decent thrower. So I'm hoping Michigan gets more traction with Harrell, but pulling guys from Alabama - and keeping them around - is tough.

Their man competition for him appears to be Duke, Vanderbilt and Northwestern