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Harrison came in as 5star RAW athlete, that played DE. I agree that at this point Harrison is what he is. He was brought in as a project, and everyone should've known that. It was said over and over. He was not a finished project. Out of all of the 5star DEs we had come in over the years(Bosa bros and Young), Harrison needed the most developing. I'd say that JTT and Sawyer are actually much further ahead in skill set than Harrison was in his 1st 2 years at OSU. Nothing against Harrison, but at this point he's a good starter, but not great like many were expecting by now.

Totally agree. I wasn't disparaging him. From a project standpoint I'd say he's been a solid double off the wall but not the home run we'd hoped for.

As far as not being a Bosa/Young type...neither are Sawyer or JTT to be honest. I remember watching Nick Bosa and seeing him win almost every individual snap as a true freshman who was coming off a knee injury. I don't see that same level of dominance from these two guys. Again, not a disparagement of JTT or Sawyer, more of a reality check of how absurdly good the Bosas and Young were.
 
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DE is all coming down to how well JTT and Sawyer develop. Harrison is what he is at this point and all the others have been surpassed by two freshmen.

I don't think it's even a question the ceiling of that group is limited this year. JTT and Sawyer are true freshmen, they are only going to be able to do so much.

On the 4th down stop in the 2nd quarter, Harrison got knocked on his ass by a lineman that was blocking Teradja Mitchell too. It was disheartening to see.
 
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Nice update from Kyle Jones at 11W

FILM STUDY: HOW OHIO STATE TRANSFORMED INTO A TWO-DEEP DEFENSE IN AS MANY WEEKS

I love what we are seeing personally but Maryland is good enough to hurt us. No simple scheme change fixes all issues. Barnes must be unpredictable.

The two main issues with 2 deep/cover two are one less man in the box against the run and deep middle against the pass. The second one is going to be exacerbated by the lack of pass rush from the DE's. QB's get enough time and there are big plays to be made by a slot receiver down the middle.
 
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The two main issues with 2 deep/cover two are one less man in the box against the run and deep middle against the pass. The second one is going to be exacerbated by the lack of pass rush from the DE's. QB's get enough time and there are big plays to be made by a slot receiver down the middle.

Anthony Gonzalez would like to comment on this but he's still busy catching passes against Iowa.
 
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Nice update from Kyle Jones at 11W

FILM STUDY: HOW OHIO STATE TRANSFORMED INTO A TWO-DEEP DEFENSE IN AS MANY WEEKS

I love what we are seeing personally but Maryland is good enough to hurt us. No simple scheme change fixes all issues. Barnes must be unpredictable.

The two main issues with 2 deep/cover two are one less man in the box against the run and deep middle against the pass. The second one is going to be exacerbated by the lack of pass rush from the DE's. QB's get enough time and there are big plays to be made by a slot receiver down the middle.
While cover 2 means less in the box it also means eyes in the backfield too. What I liked about this article is it mentions we primarily played zone and IMO that's why we've seen a huge increase in turnover production. Throwing into zone is much harder for QBs and that's especially the case when the players playing in their zones are flat-out better than your skill.

This will seem hyperbolic because it was Rutgers but watching that game on Saturday I felt the defense was always in a position to get 3+ players to the ball. It reminded me of 2019 where it felt the defense wasn't even being challenged because we were always were we needed to be.

So excited to see what we can do this week vs an offense that's one of the better we will face this season. If we can hold them 20 I'll feel really really good about this team.
 
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One of the things that sets this board apart from much of the internet (especially sports message boards) is that most of us don't try to draw more information from games than what they really offer.

Much of Buckeye Twitter et al, will, if past behavior is any indication, draw far too much from the Maryland game, one way or the other. In particular, they will draw way too many comparisons to the Iowa defense. This is exactly the kind of situation where applying the transitive property of algebra to college football leads to ridiculous conclusions.

When a defense grabs 6 interceptions from a team that has thrown just one in its previous 4 games, there is always more than one reason why. Some of it might be that Taulia just had a REALLY bad day (though his 7 interceptions thrown in just 4 games last year suggests there's more to it). Some of it is probably that Iowa exposed some things. But Iowa did not just expose those things to Maryland's opponents. It also gave Maryland some things to work on. Taulia is going to spend all week focusing on making the right reads, and the right throws. It is entirely possible that he will make a lot fewer mistakes against the Buckeyes than he did against the Hawkeyes. Yet Buckeye Twitter et al will lose their collective minds if Ohio State doesn't snag 6 interceptions (5 from Taulia) and hold them to 14 points.

Please take this post for what it is; it is directed at the rest of the Buckeyesphere, not to anyone here.
 
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One of the things that sets this board apart from much of the internet (especially sports message boards) is that most of us don't try to draw more information from games than what they really offer.

Much of Buckeye Twitter et al, will, if past behavior is any indication, draw far too much from the Maryland game, one way or the other. In particular, they will draw way too many comparisons to the Iowa defense. This is exactly the kind of situation where applying the transitive property of algebra to college football leads to ridiculous conclusions.

When a defense grabs 6 interceptions from a team that has thrown just one in its previous 4 games, there is always more than one reason why. Some of it might be that Taulia just had a REALLY bad day (though his 7 interceptions thrown in just 4 games last year suggests there's more to it). Some of it is probably that Iowa exposed some things. But Iowa did not just expose those things to Maryland's opponents. It also gave Maryland some things to work on. Taulia is going to spend all week focusing on making the right reads, and the right throws. It is entirely possible that he will make a lot fewer mistakes against the Buckeyes than he did against the Hawkeyes. Yet Buckeye Twitter et al will lose their collective minds if Ohio State doesn't snag 6 interceptions (5 from Taulia) and hold them to 14 points.

Please take this post for what it is; it is directed at the rest of the Buckeyesphere, not to anyone here.
Ummmm if we have less than 9 picks I reserve the right to call for Barnes’s head thanks.
 
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I think the defense is going to surprise people on Saturday. More than the scheme change, there just seems to be more comfortability from the guys on the field. More visible communication between DBs. The young guys are getting experience and figuring things out and I think they're going to play a pretty good game this weekend.
 
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Like someone said in review of the changes, instead of guys worrying about where they're supposed to be lined up and what assignment they have, they're worried about making a play now. Big difference when they play much faster and much bigger difference when all of that accompanies the right personnel
 
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and one would think that given the amount of single high safety cover 1 and cover 3 they worked on all off season, it would be easy to break tendencies with that or vice versa.

Just learn the lesson from Coombs and avoid being predictable. We have better athletes than almost anyone we play, be reasonably effective at defensive play calling and we should be fine given the type of offense Day runs out there.
 
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and one would think that given the amount of single high safety cover 1 and cover 3 they worked on all off season, it would be easy to break tendencies with that or vice versa.

Just learn the lesson from Coombs and avoid being predictable. We have better athletes than almost anyone we play, be reasonably effective at defensive play calling and we should be fine given the type of offense Day runs out there.
Yep. I think they're also finding out we need our entire two deep ready to play because the Offense is scoring in a minute or less so they don't get many breaks
 
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Yep. I think they're also finding out we need our entire two deep ready to play because the Offense is scoring in a minute or less so they don't get many breaks

all part of why defenses are doing well to keep opponents under 30 anymore

I didn't buy into lead with the defense/protect a single score lead with a rested defense and field position/Martyball philosophy under Tressel and I damn sure don't buy into it now.

I'll take a tired defense protecting a 2 TD lead thank you very much.
 
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Like someone said in review of the changes, instead of guys worrying about where they're supposed to be lined up and what assignment they have, they're worried about making a play now. Big difference when they play much faster and much bigger difference when all of that accompanies the right personnel

This exemplifies what you’re saying. They didn’t run the play to that side, but both players made the shift confidently after communicating. No overthinking a simple motion anymore lol.

 
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