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Maybe for Georgia on the last second part, but a non champ 2 loss Bama is not getting in unless everyone else currently in contention completely falls apart.
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Even still I have no clue how a 12-pt win against arguably the worst team in FBS football is worth more a 44-pt win over a still bad but much better Indiana team. Maybe AP pollsters giving OU that SEC bump a couple years early.
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Oh but they were sure to drop PSU as far as possible so the upcoming game at home is near meaningless to them when we crush the PEDs.
People keep trying to tell me "the polls dont matter". Well that's just bullshit These things set up the perspective of the bowl committee when they start their polls.
People keep trying to tell me "the polls dont matter". Well that's just bullshit These things set up the perspective of the bowl committee when they start their polls.
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I don’t think it is bias as much as it is different (and poorly defined) values.
The other day I put on the tv while eating lunch, and there was nothing on, so I just left it on the channel on which I had recently watched a game. Cowherd asked Klatt how it made sense that one team was ranked over another, and Klatt “patiently” explained to him that “that’s not how the polls work”, that it’s a “combination of how good you are and how deserving you are”.
That begs a whole host of questions, but most importantly imho, “How are those things combined and in what proportions?” The trouble with those questions (it is actually two questions in one), is that the answer to both is as subjective as are the determination and definitions of “good” and “deserving”.
Whether deserving is unimportant, as in @BB73 rankings, as important as good, or important to the exclusion of how good you are, is a total value judgement, meaning it is based on subjectively chosen values of the person making the decision. When it comes to personal values, it often comes down to what people think is fair or just, and when you get to the bottom of it, literally every person on earth has a different definition of those terms.
Any playoff system, by its nature, is biased towards good over deserving, as the best team during those games is champion, regardless of résumé. Those who prefer deserving over good will sometimes cite this as a reason to go back to the old bowl system.
Being a 2021 Ohio State fan, the most convenient values for populating the playoff field are that deserving is defined as good and the good teams deserve to get in. And that’s the real problem. Because few people have thought about what they really value, most will come down on whatever side would put their team in the tournament.
Having said all that, I really do think there should be room in the cfp for a team that stumbled out of the gate, but has done an incredible job of addressing their issues and realizing their potential. That seems most fair to me.
And it makes the 2021 Buckeyes very easy to root for
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sure as fucc ought to be
but even then there were people claiming that the Buckeyes didn’t deserve to be there
But in a world where no one is left undefeated, the definition of “deserving” becomes so subjective as to have no value in conversation
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1.) The people claiming the Buckeyes "didn’t deserve to be there" were almost all either Baylor or TCU fans...and we subsequently proved beyond any doubt that that we belonged there.
2.) Cincinnati doesn't play any more ranked teams this year. Oklahoma's remaining schedule is less difficult than ours (each plays three ranked teams but Oklahoma plays #15, #18, and #23, while we play #6, #7, and #17). Any loss between them (and we run the table) locks us in (or should).
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Just need Georgia to beat Bama in the SEC CG and the rest should work itself out if the Bucks don't stumble
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