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2020 ttun Shenanigans, Arguments, and Surrender Cobras (Confirmed COWARDS!)

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Time to update this post with another first round 3*. Amazing to see Damon go 19.
LordJeffBuck said:
I'm using Rivals rankings because: (a) they go back uninterrupted to 2002; and (b) they don't practice as much grade inflation as the other sites.

I stopped at the class of 2018 because the younger recruits have not yet had a chance to demonstrate their talents (or lack thereof).

I am including two-star signees with the three-star signees.

From 2002 to 2018, Ohio State had 141 three-star signees out of 375 total signees (37.6%).

From 2002 to 2018, Michigan had 183 three-star signees out of 375 total signees (48.8%).

Despite having far less three-star signees, Ohio State got much more out of their lower-ranked talent. Each team had many productive three-star players (Ohio State's include Dane Sanzenbacher, Kenny Guiton, and the Boren brothers), but I wanted to list only the best examples of three-star prospects developing into outstanding college players. Here are the most notable examples from each team:

ClassOhio State 3-Star RecruitExceptional College AccoladesDraft Position
2002A.J. Hawk2x All American; Lombardi Award1st round
2002Santonio Holmes1st team All Big Ten1st round
2003Kirk BartonAll American7th round
2005James Laurinaitis3x All American; Butkus Award2nd round
2005Malcolm Jenkins2x All American; Thorpe Award1st round
2005Brian Robiskie...2nd round
2005Brian Hartline...4th round
2005Donald Washington III...4th round
2006Chimdi ChekwaAll American4th round
2009John Simon1st team All Big Ten4th round
2010Bradley RobyAll American1st round
2010Johnathan HankinsAll American2nd round
2011Jeff Heuerman...3rd round
2011Devin Smith...2nd round
2011Cardale Jones...4th round
2012Pat ElfleinAll American; Rimington Trophy3rd round
2013Darron LeeAll American1st round
2013Gareon Conley...1st round
2014Malik HookerAll American1st round
2014Sam Hubbard...3rd round
2015Joey Burrow*All American; Heisman Trophy1st round
2015Denzel WardAll American1st round
2015Damon Arnette...???
2015Davon Hamilton...???
2016Jordan Fuller3x Academic All American???
2016Malik Harrison1st team All Big Ten???
2017Thayer Munford...???
2018Chris Olave...???
ClassMichigan 3-Star RecruitsExceptional College AccoladesDraft Position
2002David Harris1st team All Big Ten2nd round
2004Mike HartUM all-time leading rusher6th round
2005Zoltan Meskó2x 1st team All Big Ten5th round
2007David MolkAll American; Rimington Trophy7th round
2008Patrick Omameh1st team All Big TenUndrafted
2010Jake Ryan1st team All Big Ten4th round
2011Frank Clark...2nd round
2011Graham Glasgow...3rd round
2012Devin Funchess...2nd round
2012Chris Wormley1st team All Big Ten3rd round
2012Willie Henry...4th round
2012Jehu Chesson...4th round
2012Ryan Glasgow...4th round
2013Maurice Hurst, Jr.1st team All Big Ten5th round
2015Jon Runyan, Jr.1st team All Big Ten???
2018Ronnie Bell...???
Comparing first round draft picks: Ohio State 8; Michigan 0

Comparing first team All Americans: Ohio State 15 (11 different players); Michigan 1

*Ohio State also gets at least partial credit for Joey Burrow, who won the Heisman Trophy and will be the #1 pick in tomorrow's NFL draft.
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colobuck79 said:
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In the same 10-year period that scUM had six first-round picks, we had exactly triple that (18):

2020 - Young
2020 - Okudah
2020 - Arnette
2019 - Bosa, N
2019 - Haskins
2018 - Ward
2018 - Price
2017 - Lattimore
2017 - Hooker
2017 - Conley
2016 - Bosa, J
2016 - Elliott
2016 - Apple
2016 - Decker
2016 - Lee
2014 - Shazier
2014 - Roby
2011 - Heyward
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
In the same 10-year period that scUM had six first-round picks, we had exactly triple that (18):

2020 - Young
2020 - Okudah
2020 - Arnette
2019 - Bosa, N
2019 - Haskins
2018 - Ward
2018 - Price
2017 - Lattimore
2017 - Hooker
2017 - Conley
2016 - Bosa, J
2016 - Elliott
2016 - Apple
2016 - Decker
2016 - Lee
2014 - Shazier
2014 - Roby
2011 - Heyward
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Man. When you look at that in the context of Urban's recruiting. Wow.

His first real cycle of guys came off that '15 team in the '16 draft. They were his first full recruiting class of Joey Bosa and company if I am not mistaken.

Since that infusion of talent, OSU has played every fall with multiple first round picks in the upcoming NFL draft.

Then just to cement his status, and to prove he can coach/program build, as he was recruiting that tsunami of talent he took the exact same guys that went 6-6 in 2011 and went 12-0 with them in 2012.

Incredible.
 
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