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2019-2020 Ohio State Men's Basketball (Official Thread)

ho1tmann really stressing improvement from muhammad and washington as vital to the season.
No doubt. This season they will need to help carry the team's perimeter shooting. With a year under their belts, they both need to hit at least the high 30s percentage-wise from 3. Having gone through last year makes it so much more likely that they can help to replace CJ Jackson.
 
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Let’s hear some predictions for the season.

What say you hoops faithful?
November

6-Wed. Cincinnati 8:30 p.m. FS1 - WIN
10-Sun. UMass Lowell 4 p.m. ESPNU - WIN
13-Wed. 1-Villanova 7 p.m. FS1 - WIN
18-Mon. 2-Stetson 8:30 p.m. BTN - WIN
22-Fri. 2-Purdue Fort Wayne 7 p.m. BTN+ - WIN
25-Mon. 2a- Kent State 6:30 p.m. BTN - WIN
29-Fri. Morgan State 9 p.m. BTN - WIN

7-0

December

4-Wed. 3-at North Carolina 9:30 p.m. ESPN - LOSS
7-Sat. Penn State TBA BTN - WIN
15-Sun. at Minnesota 6:30 p.m. BTN - WIN
17-Tues. Southeast Missouri State 7 p.m. BTN - WIN
21-Sat. 4-vs. Kentucky 5:15 p.m. CBS - LOSS
29-Sun. 5-vs. West Virginia Noon FS1 - WIN

4-2 (11-2 overall record) [2-0 conference record]

January

3-Fri. Wisconsin 7 p.m. FS1 - WIN
7-Tues. at Maryland 7 p.m. ESPN/2 - LOSS
11-Sat. at Indiana Noon FOX - WIN
14-Tues. Nebraska 6:30 p.m. FS1 - WIN
18-Sat. at Penn State Noon ESPN/2/U - LOSS
23-Thurs. Minnesota 6:30 p.m. FS1 - WIN
26-Sun. at Northwestern 6:30 p.m. BTN - WIN

5-2 (16-4) [7-2]


February

1-Sat. Indiana Noon ESPN/2 - WIN
4-Tues. at Michigan 7 p.m. ESPN/2 - WIN
9-Sun. at Wisconsin 1 p.m. CBS - LOSS
12-Wed. Rutgers 7 p.m. BTN - WIN
15-Sat. Purdue Noon FOX - WIN
20-Thurs. at Iowa 7 p.m. ESPN/2 - WIN
23-Sun. Maryland 4 p.m. CBS - LOSS
27-Thurs. at Nebraska 9 p.m. ESPN/2/U - WIN

6-2 (22-6) [13-4]


March

1-Sun. Michigan 4 p.m. CBS - WIN
5-Thurs. Illinois 7 p.m. ESPN/2 - WIN
8-Sun. at Michigan State 4:30 p.m. CBS - LOSS

2-1 (24-7) [15-5]

no stolen wins against msu or md, but the team mostly holds serve otherwise. losses to uw and psu on the road because why not. only a couple 20-game conference seasons in the book, but a 15-5 record puts osu in the range of 2nd, 3rd, or 4th place. hard to forecast a seed in the tournament because it's so dependent on other teams, not including line bumps based solely on logistics. probably in the 3/4/5 range. won't forecast tournament outcome without seeing bracket.

kaleb on either first or second team all-conference.
liddell on all-freshman team and overall third team.
muhammad on all-defensive team and overall third team.
andre with honorable mention.

first game starting lineup:

walker
muhammad
andre
young
kaleb

starting lineup in january:

walker
muhammad
andre
liddell
kaleb

carton gets at least 15 minutes and starts some games. washington gets at least 18 minutes and starts some games. andre starts every game. battle between jallow and ahrens for minutes behind andre and liddell at the 3. lots of rotation at the 4 between young, liddell and gaffney. doesn't matter who starts. plenty of sets with liddell being the 3 or even the 5, though position definitions largely become meaningless. kaleb starts every game.

small-ball lineup will often be our best lineup. the full-court press returns to ohio state. exclusively man-to-man. will regularly go 10-deep. may even see wholesale substitutions (i.e., 5 subbing for 5). will look to push transition and tempo. isolating liddell will become a major offensive weapon.

questions and concerns:

1. will we get trustworthy play from the point guards?
2. will we get trustworthy play from the backcourt? waaaaaaaay too careless with the ball last year at the 1 and 2.
3. will we be better than average behind the arc?
4. will diallo redshirt?
5. who wins between jallow and ahrens? jallow is obviously the better defender with more experience and far better athleticism, but ahrens may be the best outside shooter on a team in need of a long-range killer. as roster deepens, defined and unique roles become more important and produce a clearer path to playing time.
 
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November

6-Wed. Cincinnati 8:30 p.m. FS1 - WIN
10-Sun. UMass Lowell 4 p.m. ESPNU - WIN
13-Wed. 1-Villanova 7 p.m. FS1 - WIN
18-Mon. 2-Stetson 8:30 p.m. BTN - WIN
22-Fri. 2-Purdue Fort Wayne 7 p.m. BTN+ - WIN
25-Mon. 2a- Kent State 6:30 p.m. BTN - WIN
29-Fri. Morgan State 9 p.m. BTN - WIN

7-0

December

4-Wed. 3-at North Carolina 9:30 p.m. ESPN - LOSS
7-Sat. Penn State TBA BTN - WIN
15-Sun. at Minnesota 6:30 p.m. BTN - WIN
17-Tues. Southeast Missouri State 7 p.m. BTN - WIN
21-Sat. 4-vs. Kentucky 5:15 p.m. CBS - LOSS
29-Sun. 5-vs. West Virginia Noon FS1 - WIN

4-2 (11-2 overall record) [2-0 conference record]

January

3-Fri. Wisconsin 7 p.m. FS1 - WIN
7-Tues. at Maryland 7 p.m. ESPN/2 - LOSS
11-Sat. at Indiana Noon FOX - WIN
14-Tues. Nebraska 6:30 p.m. FS1 - WIN
18-Sat. at Penn State Noon ESPN/2/U - LOSS
23-Thurs. Minnesota 6:30 p.m. FS1 - WIN
26-Sun. at Northwestern 6:30 p.m. BTN - WIN

5-2 (16-4) [7-2]


February

1-Sat. Indiana Noon ESPN/2 - WIN
4-Tues. at Michigan 7 p.m. ESPN/2 - WIN
9-Sun. at Wisconsin 1 p.m. CBS - LOSS
12-Wed. Rutgers 7 p.m. BTN - WIN
15-Sat. Purdue Noon FOX - WIN
20-Thurs. at Iowa 7 p.m. ESPN/2 - WIN
23-Sun. Maryland 4 p.m. CBS - LOSS
27-Thurs. at Nebraska 9 p.m. ESPN/2/U - WIN

6-2 (22-6) [13-4]


March

1-Sun. Michigan 4 p.m. CBS - WIN
5-Thurs. Illinois 7 p.m. ESPN/2 - WIN
8-Sun. at Michigan State 4:30 p.m. CBS - LOSS

2-1 (24-7) [15-5]

no stolen wins against msu or md, but the team mostly holds serve otherwise. losses to uw and psu on the road because why not. only a couple 20-game conference seasons in the book, but a 15-5 record puts osu in the range of 2nd, 3rd, or 4th place. hard to forecast a seed in the tournament because it's so dependent on other teams, not including line bumps based solely on logistics. probably in the 3/4/5 range. won't forecast tournament outcome without seeing bracket.

kaleb on either first or second team all-conference.
liddell on all-freshman team and overall third team.
muhammad on all-defensive team and overall third team.
andre with honorable mention.

first game starting lineup:

walker
muhammad
andre
young
kaleb

starting lineup in january:

walker
muhammad
andre
liddell
kaleb

carton gets at least 15 minutes and starts some games. washington gets at least 18 minutes and starts some games. andre starts every game. lots of rotation at the 4 between young, liddell and gaffney. doesn't matter who starts. plenty of sets with liddell being the 3 or even the 5, though position definitions largely become meaningless. kaleb starts every game. battle between jallow and ahrens for minutes behind andre and liddell at the 3.

small-ball lineup will often be our best lineup. the full-court press returns to ohio state. exclusively man-to-man. will regularly go 10-deep. may even see wholesale substitutions (i.e., 5 subbing for 5). will look to push transition and tempo. isolating liddell will become a major offensive weapon.

questions and concerns:

1. will we get trustworthy play from the point guards?
2. will we get trustworthy play from the backcourt? waaaaaaaay too careless with the ball last year at the 1 and 2.
3. will we be better than average behind the arc?
4. will diallo redshirt?
5. who wins between jallow and ahrens? jallow is obviously the better defender with more experience and far better athleticism, but ahrens may be the best outside shooter on a team in need of a long-range killer. as roster deepens, defined and unique roles become more important and produce a clearer path to playing time.
Holy shit man. I can’t afford this quality of insight. I’m only on here because it’s free. Hahaha. Seriously though......that’s great stuff. Nicely done.

Can’t wait to see all these fresh faces.
 
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Sounds like Ahrens and Jallow have really been hampered by injuries this summer. Trying to limit my expectations for any leaps forward in their games.

Also bummed to hear about EJ, hope it was nothing major or had him out of pre-season stuff for long. Kind of think we need him to be a talent boost out of the gates to our forward rotation.
 
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Impossible to predict but if forced to guess I probably would also go with something like 10 losses. 3ish losses in the OOC and 7ish losses in the B1G. I agree with Buckguy that losses to UK and @UNC are likely. I also think UC and Nova will be good teams and those early early season games against good comp are such toss-ups. Also can't take WVU for granted. It's a tough OOC, for sure, only 3 losses would be an achievement. Then with the B1G I just have a hard time picking us to win over half our road games when I don't see a big talent disparity to elevate us over most of the conference, and I imagine we will drop a home game or two in conference play, so yeah, about 9 or 10 losses total for the season, I'd say.

I don't know if we will see a dramatic difference in style of play from what we've seen from Holtmann teams since his Butler years. I think he will have a core 7-8 guys but situationally he will work in 2-3 of the others and is not afraid to mix up the starting line-ups. I don't think we are suddenly going to become a transition-oriented team because we add some athletic frosh; Holtmann runs primary offenses and defenses that are much more about the half court. But I do think with added length and athleticism we will give ourselves a few more transition opportunities and hopefully more follow through on those. I think I am most excited to see how the length and athleticism bolsters the help D facet of our gap man D, we missed KBD in that regard last season.
 
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Some great pictures (including the Wesson brothers and the four Freshmen):

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