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2018 tOSU Defense Discussion

Schiano and Grinch dont seem on the same page to me. And as much as position guys should be on the chopping block (esp Davis); a DC change seems in order - even if that means just 1 of them walking.

Agree. Schiano can take a HC job, Davis can go coach at Incarnate Word or Grand Canyon. Grinch gets a shot, you see if you can let a great coach away for the LBs and DBs and go from there.
 
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Just curious. Which year was it, again, when Rodriguez coached Michigan to 10 wins in their first 11 games? Because I don't remember it at all.
We are winning despite our defense...

We havent had a solid win basically all year. Our best win is a 3 loss PED team and other than that maybe a 4 loss Sparty.

Other than that its been complete shit of a schedule. We still managed to lose 1 anyways
 
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OHIO STATE'S NAGGING DEFENSIVE ISSUES NEARLY RESULT IN UPSET LOSS TO MARYLAND

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Ohio State needed 52 points and 688 yards – the most in program history against a Big Ten opponent – to beat Maryland 52-51 on Saturday.

It needed three rushing touchdowns from Dwayne Haskins and a career-high 37 rushes for a career-high 203 yards and a touchdown from J.K. Dobbins. The Buckeyes needed 36 first downs, 405 passing yards from Haskins and a fourth-down conversion to Rashod Berry.

Ohio State needed everything from its offense because it got nothing from its defense.

Maryland became the second team – after Iowa last season – to drop at least 50 points on the Buckeyes this millennium and accumulated 535 yards on an average of 8.6 yards per play.

“Certainly not what you set out to do,” said Ohio State defensive coordinator Greg Schiano. “If anybody would have told me that this morning that that was going to happen, I would have said, ‘No, that's not going to happen.’ I thought we practiced very well. I thought, coming off last week, we tackled very well. I just felt like the kids had a really good grasp on what we were doing. It didn't turn out that way.”

No, it certainly did not. Not in the slightest. And it didn’t take long to realize what type of game it would be for the defense.

Anthony McFarland Jr. took a handoff from Tyrrell Pigrome on Maryland’s second play of the game and raced for 81 yards, the longest rush by a freshman in school history. Less than five minutes later, McFarland had a 75-yard rush. Sound familiar? It should. In the season opener, Oregon State running back Artavis Pierce had rushes for 78 and 80 yards.

Pigrome took a deep shot on the first play of the Terrapins’ third drive of the game and dropped in a 56-yard pass to Dontay Demus Jr. Four plays later, Maryland took a 17-3 lead with a 36-yard field goal from Joseph Petrino. On the following drive, McFarland had a 56-yard rush. The Terrapins then got into a groove and led an eight-play, 60-yard touchdown drive the next time they got the ball.

Dre’Mont Jones admitted he thought Ohio State’s issues giving up big plays were behind the team, but they clearly weren’t. Urban Meyer called the yardage allowed “alarming” and blamed it partially on missed tackles, a nagging issue since the loss to Purdue.

“This is a little different than other games,” Schiano said. “It still came down a lot to tackling. They did a very good job with their scheme. As I said earlier in the week, they put you in a position where you have to make one-on-one tackles, sometimes in space. They hit a few big shots in the air, which we've been pretty good with that at the corner position. They got a few on us today.”

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Ohio State held Maryland to just 19 yards in the third quarter, seeming to have successfully made halftime adjustments. But the defense regressed in the fourth quarter, and the Terrapins responded by putting together back-to-back nine-play, 83-yard and six-play, 61-yard drives capped off by touchdowns.

Even in the final drive of regulation that began with 36 seconds remaining in the game, Pigrome connected on a 30-yard pass, and Maryland threatened to score on its third drive in a row. On his team’s first play in overtime, McFarland had a 24-yard rush to bring the ball to the 1-yard line. Tayon Fleet-Davis scored a 1-yard touchdown.

Matt Canada opted to go for the win – a decision Urban Meyer said he would have made, having seen his defense get shredded for most of the game – and it nearly worked. Pigrome’s toss on the two-point conversion was just wide of Jeshaun Jones.

Even though Ohio State racked up record numbers of production of offense, the defense nearly couldn’t hang on.

Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...ssues-nearly-result-in-upset-loss-to-maryland
 
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In the off season, I would be fine with a few defensive changes:
DC- Grinch
DL- LJsr
LB-Freeman(UC) or another up and coming LB coach like Byron Thweatt from Marshall
CB-Johnson (give him another year, as there was a talent dropoff at CB)
S- Grinch

Let's get some new blood infused into this defense like we have on offense with Day, Alford and Hartline
 
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Sorry Greg but you are fucking full of shit - Maryland is not > than New England Pats. Seems most of the teams on Marylands schedule have been able to hold them under 35 with the exception of BGSU and fucking Illinois. That is where we are, equivalent defensively to fucking Illinois and Bowling Green.

Total bullshit. I would also argue that the "kids" actual did understand the scheme, it is the scheme that FUCKING SUCKS.
 
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Watching the DB's look around early and not understand their alignments/responsibilities when they see Marylands personnel and formation is a pretty big tell. The communication and moving around late in the pre-snap is also a concern from the top down. Also indicates to me a lack of a true football IQ and leader on the field in the secondary - usually one of your safeties.

The inability to recognize, adjust and defend something like a weakside zone run ( mostly to the 3 hole) isn't something I ever thought I would see at this level of play. Make no mistake about it, that is exactly what happened yesterday. I watching six figure coaches on our sidelines get clowned on with Jr. High level adjustments and scheming.
 
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Watching the DB's look around early and not understand their alignments/responsibilities when they see Marylands personnel and formation is a pretty big tell. The communication and moving around late in the pre-snap is also a concern from the top down. Also indicates to me a lack of a true football IQ and leader on the field in the secondary - usually one of your safeties.

The inability to recognize, adjust and defend something like a weakside zone run ( mostly to the 3 hole) isn't something I ever thought I would see at this level of play. Make no mistake about it, that is exactly what happened yesterday. I watching six figure coaches on our sidelines get clowned on with Jr. High level adjustments and scheming.


see the post I just made in the Maryland Game thread. That first long run illustrated every bit of what you just said.

Totally agree on the disappoint/frustration/bewilderment with OSU defensive coaches.

People had better be replaced this off season.
 
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